Diesel Tuning Chip for Land Rover Discovery 4

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Dougal you think you are God's gift to all things diesel and you made the statement that any competent tuner could do this work.

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Oh yawn. Where did I lay claim to being gods gift to diesel?

Diesel tuners throughout europe on every other EDC17 vehicle have been shutting down EGR and DPF's for about 4 years now. It is a perfectly reasonable question to ask if any of those tuners successful on other vehicles have tried the EDC17 landrovers.

You seem to have issue with this extremely valid question. Try finding the answer instead of attacking the person asking it.

How about this question:

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Originally Posted by Dougal

So you know for certain that the EGR switches have been tried and either failed or are non-existant in the 3.0sdv6 EDC17 ECU?

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It is the crux of the issue.

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Oh yawn. Where did I lay claim to being gods gift to diesel?

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He didn't say you did, just said you seem to think you are. If the cap fits...

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Originally Posted by Dougal

You seem to have issue with this extremely valid question. Try finding the answer instead of attacking the person asking it.

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You made the statement, in effect that any competent tuner can do this process - you did not ask the question. I asked the question that if that was the case why haven't these competent tuners been able to do this with the 3.0TDV6 Diesels (and indeed the later 2.7s).

See this is typical - you make statements and claims that many on here question but you do not seem to be able to back them up when asked.

Garry

Here's a link to a company that provides an EGR disable software module to reprogram ecus that includes the 3.0 used in LRs:
https://www.vcpowerteam.com/products...emoval-module/

Here's a link to a company that makes devices to retrieve and load ecu programs that includes the 3.0 used in LRs:
BOSCH MEDC17 TRICORE IROM/XROM BOOT-MODE WITH LOCKED MICROPROCESSOR

Here's a link to a company that provide a DPF removal update to the 3.0 used in Jags so I would expect they could just as easily provide EGR removal as indicated in the first link:
Jaguar XF 3.0d DPF Removal / Delete & ECU Remap | Avon Tuning

I'm convinced that EGR can be disabled on the 3.0 and its just a matter of seeing if someone in Oz has the software and equipment to do it. My previously-mentioned son is now investigating.

It is a good question then why Pete Bell has not been able to do it.
It would appear that VC power says it can be done just with software but Avon tuning it appears that they remove the core of the EGR valves first before altering the software, which would explain the solution some came up with for >MY07 D3s by removing the EGRS but leaving them in the engine bay. It would seem to be that they have been able to remove the software bit and were still left with fault codes as the ECU would still sense the EGR motors not working?

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Originally Posted by Dougal

So you know for certain that the EGR switches have been tried and either failed or are non-existant in the 3.0sdv6 EDC17 ECU?

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Originally Posted by garrycol

You made the statement, in effect that any competent tuner can do this process - you did not ask the question. I asked the question that if that was the case why haven't these competent tuners been able to do this with the 3.0TDV6 Diesels (and indeed the later 2.7s).

See this is typical - you make statements and claims that many on here question but you do not seem to be able to back them up when asked.

Garry

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So in a nutshell.
You have no idea what your favourite tuners may or may not have tried or even if they know about these switches. But now it's all my fault.

Makes perfect sense.:angel:

Wife: It's dark in here, turn on on the light.
SDV6 owner: There is no light.
Wife: It's there on the ceiling.
SDV6 owner: It can't be turned on.
Wife: The switch is on the wall behind the curtain.
SDV6 owner: It's not possible.
Wife: It was there last time and worked perfectly.
SDV6 owner: You think you're gods gift to light switches. I'm telling you, it's not possible.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

Here's a link to a company that provides an EGR disable software module to reprogram ecus that includes the 3.0 used in LRs:
https://www.vcpowerteam.com/products...emoval-module/

Here's a link to a company that makes devices to retrieve and load ecu programs that includes the 3.0 used in LRs:
BOSCH MEDC17 TRICORE IROM/XROM BOOT-MODE WITH LOCKED MICROPROCESSOR

Here's a link to a company that provide a DPF removal update to the 3.0 used in Jags so I would expect they could just as easily provide EGR removal as indicated in the first link:
Jaguar XF 3.0d DPF Removal / Delete & ECU Remap | Avon Tuning

I'm convinced that EGR can be disabled on the 3.0 and its just a matter of seeing if someone in Oz has the software and equipment to do it. My previously-mentioned son is now investigating.

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I just sent AVON a message regarding the 2.7l 2011MY, the other 2 only do the 3.0l and I think I have emailed them before about this, I missed AVON on my previous searches and they are a UK based company, dunno how I missed them.

Can your son inquire about the 2.7l also Graeme, please.

Baz.

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Originally Posted by Dougal

So in a nutshell.

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So Graeme provided some of the answers to the questions I asked in response to your statement. Even then there only seems to be one that is directly related to EGRs on the TDV6 3.0 and there is not a lot of detail.

Thanks Graeme

will you people please stop playing the person and get back to discussing the issue.

VCPowerTeam list LandRover EGR disablement for Siemens SID20X ecus and further down lists EGR disablement for Peugeot's 2.7 using Siemens SID201. I don't know what ecu the D3 2.7 uses nor what ecu the D4 2.7 uses but if its one of the Siemens 20X series it would mean EGR can be disabled on any D3/4 2.7.

The gutting of the component innards for the Jag is that of the DPF (not the EGR valves) so that it can't blocked by particulates after DPF monitoring and cleaning disablement.

I'd like to find more about the necessity of probing an ecu pin on one or more versions of the locked EDC17 ecus, specifically if its required for my 3.0 and therefore what ecu pin and what voltage, eg 3V, 5V, ground etc.