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Thread: Wheel nuts and anti seize

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    Wheel nuts and anti seize

    When I installed the airbags on the 90 the other weekend I found the wheel nuts were pretty hard to budge. I don't think it was due to being over tightened but they seemed to grab (for want of a better word) not on the thread but where they meet against the alloy rim. I have the dual finish alloys fitted.

    Is it good practice or not to use an anti seize on the thread (I've read for and against's) and what about between the wheel nut and the alloy rim I was thinking maybe a tiny amount of Tefgel.

    Thoughts.

    Mick

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    yes I use loctite silver but nickle or copper will work just as well.

    dont go too heavy and dont use a rattlegun.
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    Awesome, thanks Dave. I've got some Nulon and Tefgel in the shed.

    No I won't use a rattle gun, old school or torque wrench when I buy the correct size socket.

    Mick

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    don't use copper anti-seize on aluminium. Loctite Nickel is the best all round anti-seize.
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    What reason would there be to not use an anti-seize on wheel studs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    What reason would there be to not use an anti-seize on wheel studs ?
    That was the reason why I asked the question here. I had read on a forum, who knows where I'm on a few .

    The reason posted was that with antiseize on nuts/bolts/threads that are torqued (as a wheel nut should be) they claimed that with antiseize on it can lessen the resistance and the torque applied could actually be more than the same nut/bolt/thread torqued to the same spec without antisieze

    I'm no engineer so have no idea..........but knew I would get an answer here.

    EDIT Just for s***s and giggles, google 'Anti seize on wheel studs' when you've got nothing better to do, thats how I found some of the differing opinions.

    Mick.

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    Copper stuff on the hub and threads...

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    not that I know anything about torqueing things up,
    but
    in the real world,
    the torque specification is given as a dry torque or a wet torque.


    I do not know the Land Rover torque figures, but the difference between wet and dry could mean you shear a fastener,
    probably not good to loose a wheel.


    most car manuals I have read do not mention wet or dry[lubricated ] threads, so I would stick with dry.
    Safe Travels
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    As Brian said, copper anti-seize will react with an aluminium wheel and the wheel will corrode! The nickel based one is better for aluminium.

    An easy way to test if anti-seize increases the torque too much, is too tighten a bolt so that it clamps two plates together and mark with a felt pen a place on the hex connecting to the top plate. Do it dry first and then remove the bolt and lubricate it with oil and tighten it to the same torque - observe where the marks end up. Repeat the test with anti-seize as the lubricant. Then decide whether it suits your style

    I have been using the nickel anti-seize on my alloys and threads without having anything break, or corrode since 2002,

    Cheers Charlie

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    The Loctite site tells us that their compounds are made to give the same torque results as clean lightly oiled threads. Most automotive torque specifications are given for clean lightly oiled threads even if not stated.
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