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Originally Posted by Dougal
Says you?, What qualifies you to dispute what Mack claims to be fact, you have some knowledge that allows you to dismiss out of hand my statement (BTW I have corrected my statement, it should have read "at or below" ambient temps.).
If so back up your statement, Regards Frank.
I don't see Mack claiming this anywhere. To be honest I think it's a case of chinese whispers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
To cool any heat source to or below ambient requires evaporation or refrigeration. Mack Coolpower used neither.
I have a piece of paper hanging on the wall which says I am qualified to make these claims.
"To cool any heat source to or below ambient requires evaporation or refrigeration"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Total bull****, Regards Frank.
Come on Frank. We're all listening. Show us this magical device that violates the laws of physics and thermodynamics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
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Originally Posted by Tank
Without a Peltier device, evaporation, refrigeration (chiller) unit coolest the cooling system can theoretically run is the ambient temperature of the environment the radiator (load shedding end) is located in..
Agreed.. Ambient is ambient.. Without evap or refrigeration whatever the outside temp is is what you can achieve. Cummins have run a water to air cooler system in the 6bt's for a while.. I've seen it on tractors, but never got my head around it.. I've seen systems that mist water over the front of an intercooler to help it cool more.. This is said to work quite well...
Having been in years past a dairy farmer and watching the milk vats slow their rate of cooling on stinking hot day's with strong hot northerlies blowing, we had to resort to running water down the ends of the condenser to keep the compressor from cutting out from heat overload.
A very small trickle of water was all that was needed to achieve a large difference in the cooling time.
Instead of water to air, how would a remote radiator situated perhaps laying flat under the floor between the chassis and using a refrigerate thermo-cycling to carry the heat away?
Check out the principle on which a Silent Knight refrigerator works.
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bed time, see you all in the morning.
Sounds like a dirty and dangerous place for an intercooler on a 4wd.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrinklearthur
Most aftermarket intercoolers are fitted right out front. But I think the best place is between the AC condensor and the engine radiator. Packaging wise this works great if you can find an IC of the right size and the AC condensor offers minimal heating (only sheds a few kw, about 2 degrees max into the air-flow) but offers significant damage protection.
Any stones or branches that get flicked up can take their toll on the AC condensor and you can still drive home.
It also completes the sleeper look vs the 18 year old with a massive intercooler and no turbo look.
I beg to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal
Next time you are under your bus greasing the universal joints have a look at where there is a build up of mud thrown about by the tyres.
Why is it dangerous? A stick can puncture the condenser out the front probably easier than anything that's in the area beneath the cab floor, especially after the front diff housing has dealt with what was on the track.
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The entire underside body/chassis of my rangie is caked. I wear safety glasses if I'm under there touching anything to stop it raining into my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrinklearthur
Ever had your vehicle bellied? The underside of my chassis, LT230 and muffler is scraped/scratched and it's tucked up between the chassis rails. No way I'd ever put an intercooler there.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrinklearthur
I can't see any good or sane reason to put an intercooler under the vehicle. From damage to airflow and even piping to/from. It just doesn't make any sense.
As for front-mount damage. How many AC condensors have you replaced due to damage on your own vehicles?
I've replaced one (previous owner damaged it) and the damage was only enough to create a leak. Which is why I'll be putting my intercooler behind the AC condensor.