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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Yes, I had one. it let go whilst I had a tandem, stock crate and 2 steers's in it on the back

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    Till this day I've not seen a dented handbrake drum
    Ive got a mate running them, is the design stronger? So less likely to rip?

    Also not saying anything about the handbrake drum denting, just dont like putting the whole weight of the car on it and ripping tranny mounts out

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    I had one for about a year on a County (LT95 4 speed) and it would slip easier than the standard drum handbrake. The problem seems to be the small pad contact area and the fact you can't get a lot of pressure on it with the cable. Would be different if it was vacuum/hydraulic actuated I reckon but then it gets too complicated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    I had Matts (rovercare) let go on me, and have read of others doing the same, think may be isuzurovers??
    What do you mean? Xeng or terra brand, and was it adjusted correctly, how much weight are we talking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearman View Post
    I had one for about a year on a County (LT95 4 speed) and it would slip easier than the standard drum handbrake. The problem seems to be the small pad contact area and the fact you can't get a lot of pressure on it with the cable. Would be different if it was vacuum/hydraulic actuated I reckon but then it gets too complicated!
    What brand and was it set up adjusted properly and what weight/circumstances would it slip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Questions:

    Do the X Engineering ones hold as good or better than the drum version?
    Do the rattle and when? or has this now been fixed?
    Does unybody know clearance gains over RRC drum?
    I have one on my 02 defender and they are very effective.
    On a steep incline with 1.5t kamper behind me the x-eng held no worries.
    The standard drum was just not that good.
    I fitted it for just that purpose.

    As for clearance, well as said I have never seen a drum damaged either.
    However the x-eng assembly comes with a guard incorporated to protect the disc as apparently earlier ones could get damage to the disc in offroad situations.
    So for clearance only I wouldn't worry but for a better transmission brake the x-eng is the go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    What brand and was it set up adjusted properly and what weight/circumstances would it slip?
    X brake brand and as I said it would slip easier than the standard drum one. Tried all sorts of adjustment ideas even changed pads but nothing improved it. I could even start off in 1st gear with it on. The main reason I bought it was because I use the County to launch a 3.5 ton Sharkcat at a local boat ramp and wasn't entirely happy with the standard drum type. The X brake was worse so I have gone back to the drum type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearman View Post
    X brake brand and as I said it would slip easier than the standard drum one. Tried all sorts of adjustment ideas even changed pads but nothing improved it. I could even start off in 1st gear with it on. The main reason I bought it was because I use the County to launch a 3.5 ton Sharkcat at a local boat ramp and wasn't entirely happy with the standard drum type. The X brake was worse so I have gone back to the drum type.
    Ok..it seems people have dramas with it slipping with very heavy trailer loads, which im sure people also have with the drum.

    You mention being able to starting in first with the Xeng, I too can drive for quite some time without realizing my handbrake is on with Drum adjusted properly in my RRC also.

    Others have said its a better handbrake whilst also loaded but maybe to lessor extents.

    Im wondering whether the Xeng trans brake has always been the same or does the current offering have more purchase, in comparrison with the terra version it certainly grabs on more of the disk?

    Also does does installing the Xeng brake affect the propshalf length at all?

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    Horses for courses as always, but it didn't work for me. No propshaft changes are required when installing the x brake one.
    Cheers......Brian
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    Basic physics say it can't work better then the drum less friction material and no self energising action wouldn't wast my money to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 460cixy View Post
    Basic physics say it can't work better then the drum less friction material and no self energising action wouldn't wast my money to be honest.
    But the application of the forces is different in a drum and a disk assembly. While a drum brake can be subject to accumulated oil leaking from the output shaft turning friction material into a bearing material.

    Just compare the pad surface area on wheel disk brakes and the respective shoes on the drum brakes the disks replaced. No one would suggest drum brakes are superior to disks on the wheels.

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