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  1. 9th September 2004, 08:13 PM #1
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    2.25 - 2.8 litre engine upgrade

    Land Rover's 2.25 Petrol & Diesel were robust and hefty engines (read over engineered). I read somewhere that in the 50's NATO was looking for a Petrol / Diesel combo engine, a wish that was later dropped, but it may account for the similarities in the Land Rover engines.

    In time the 5 bearing 2.5 was released and this same engine went on to evolve into the Tdi.

    Now I'm reading that Ford in Brazil still make this motor 8O , now evolved to 2.8 litres :!: :!: :!: in Petrol and turbo diesel variants. Apparently it powers the local Ford Ranger utes.

    This sounds like a good engine upgrade for those of us who need more power, but don't want to deviate too far from original . Does anyone know anything more about these engines, or how to go about importing some 2nd hand units :?:
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  2. 9th September 2004, 10:28 PM #2
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    Don't know whether you'll get them second hand yet, they have a good writeup in LROI. I am led to believe they could cost somewhere in the region of 15K landed in Aust, but that's bringing them in from the UK. If you can get a contact in Brazil could be a lot cheaper.
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  3. 9th September 2004, 10:37 PM #3
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    quality control ...

    before fitting one it might be worthwhile to inspect the quality of the fastenings.

    I hear they are made with Brazil Nuts !
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  4. 10th September 2004, 07:17 AM #4
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    8O 15K is a lot of dollars for an engine though, even half that if from Brazil.

    I always figured a better engine could always be built from an existing for the same $'s of a replacement one whether petrol or diesel. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
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  5. 22nd October 2004, 07:47 PM #5
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    I saw two 2.8 Tdi (Brand New :!: :!: :!: ) today 8O 8O
    $11,000 supplied with all ancillaries :!: :!:
    One was going into a '96 Disco. I suppose if you want something more powerful for towing, it's cheaper than upgrading to a new Disco.

    Anyway, obviously not an option for a SIII, though the gearbox will bolt straight up - if you want to rip it apart.
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  6. 23rd October 2004, 08:44 AM #6
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    i remeber reading that it was made by international engines in Brazil. its not just a bigger 300tdi but is improved in other areas ie. the new turbo has adjustable vains. i think it still has a timing belt. power is 99kw @ 3800 and 375nm @1400
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  7. 23rd October 2004, 10:44 AM #7
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    The guy importing them had a flyer advertising them, with some power & torque figures quoted. I'll see if I can grab a copy of the flyer on Monday and I'll post what the purported power / torque outputs are on this forum.
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  8. 25th October 2004, 08:19 AM #8
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    I've got a copy of LRO where they put one in a disco. Apparently they are quite an impressive engine.
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  9. 25th October 2004, 04:32 PM #9
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    Here's the promised data on the 2.8.
    HS 2.8L Power Stroke, brand new with all ancillaries $11,000 [no electronics]

    300Tdi......195 ft lbs @ 1800 rpm
    TD5..........221 ft lbs @ 1950 rpm
    HS2.8.......277 ft ibs @ 1600 rpm [36.2kgf.m (355Nm) @ 1600 rpm]

    300Tdi......111 bhp @ 4000 rpm
    TD5..........122 bhp @ 4200 rpm
    HS2.8.......132 bhp @ 3800 rpm [132cv (97KW) @ 3800 rpm]

    Contact Antony Johnson british4wd@bigpond.com
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  10. 25th October 2004, 05:25 PM #10
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    About what a holden makes.

    Though with cost of fuel these days wouldn't be a bad investment.

    Ooh I dunno about breaking the gearbox, don't drive it hard and it'd be okay. I avoid the traffic lights nowadays so I don't bust it anymore.
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