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    its not quite urban myth.

    but its certainly not as bad as its made out to be and its a lot less relevant now with better battery quality...

    heres an exaggerated example.

    lets say you want to do 24V and you do that with a massive 1000000CCA 12V battery used to start a small moon along side a puny 15CCA 12v battery used to start a whipper snipper.

    thats not going to work...

    in the real world the problems with what you want to do are essentially purely hypothetical so long as you stay on batteries that have the same basic chemistry and voltage/current limitations. Even then you have some pretty significant leeways before you start hitting real world problems.


    Short End of the day version.

    So long as both batteries can accept the voltage you want to charge them with, at the maximum amps your electrical system can punch it into them at AND your discharge rate is within the batteries capability there wont be any problems.

    IF what was being spoken about was true in the way its bandied about I wouldnt be able to do things like charge a motorbike battery using the 100A feed off of my solenoid driven dual battery and solar setup on the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I was told any two batteries could be connected by an isolator, but if two batteries were being connected together on the same side of the isolator (ie. a 2nd and 3rd battery connected together) they should be a similar size or they might only charge to the level of the smaller battery. Is that right or wrong?
    Hi DiscoMick, there is no need to match batteries.

    Again using my systems as an example.

    Because of the unique way my isolators work, it is very common for the cranking battery and auxiliary battery to be connected in parallel for years at a time and no problems have ever arisen when this has been done.

    I have never come across a single event, not just relating to my systems but with any paralleled set up using dissimilar batteries, where a problem has occurred that would not have also occurred with identical batteries wire in parallel.

    As posted, it’s nothing but an urban myth BUT, I think you will find that many people get the requirements of batteries wired in series as being the same for batteries wired in parallel.

    With a series set up, batteries must be as similar as possible or you will damage one or both in a series set up.

    In a parallel set up, there are no similarity requirements required and you can parallel any size, type or age 12v lead acid battery with any other lead acid battery.

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    In the 300TDI I am running a Bond marine lead adid battery as the starter and an 80ah AGM deep cycle battery now, and have for some years been using the Traxide USI 160 set up, no issues. The AGM is a lot more forgiving than the spare lead acid I used to use - its wired to a 1000W inverter and use it for charging, fridge etc. The lead acid was flattened to nothing (and was unrecoverable) a couple of years back when I left the fridge on overnight, but to the Traxide system's credit, my starting battery was unaffected and worked as normal (good to know the vehicle will start 6000km from home even if you screw up - yes I know expensive fridges have protection from this idiocy, I don't have one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi DiscoMick, there is no need to match batteries.

    Again using my systems as an example.

    Because of the unique way my isolators work, it is very common for the cranking battery and auxiliary battery to be connected in parallel for years at a time and no problems have ever arisen when this has been done.

    I have never come across a single event, not just relating to my systems but with any paralleled set up using dissimilar batteries, where a problem has occurred that would not have also occurred with identical batteries wire in parallel.

    As posted, it’s nothing but an urban myth BUT, I think you will find that many people get the requirements of batteries wired in series as being the same for batteries wired in parallel.

    With a series set up, batteries must be as similar as possible or you will damage one or both in a series set up.

    In a parallel set up, there are no similarity requirements required and you can parallel any size, type or age 12v lead acid battery with any other lead acid battery.
    Thanks, I think that confirms what I thought. For example, I have a starting battery and a second deep cycle battery of similar size connected together by a Matson isolator and there are no problems - both batteries are very happy. I have run a wire to the rear and intend to plug a battery pack with a third battery into it when we run a fridge in the back. I will make the 3rd battery identical to the second battery i.e. both wet cell deep cycles of the same size. I believe using the same type and size of second and third batteries connected in series like that should mean they will both fully charge. I think that's correct?


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    Hi DiscoMick and what you are setting up is a PARALLELED battery wiring system.

    When you wire all the batteries together by connecting the positives of one battery to the positives of the next battery, and in your case, then from the positive of the second battery to the positive of the third battery, this is a parallel set up.

    In PARALLEL setup, the output voltage is the same, no matter how many batteries you have in the PARALLEL setup, but the the capacity the ampere hour ( Ah ) is the sum of all the batteries in the PARALLEL setup. So if you have two 12v 100Ah batteries wired in PARALLEL, you have an output power of 12v with a capacity of 200Ah


    In a series setup, you connect the negative of the first battery to earth, then the positive of the first battery is connected to the negative of the second battery and the positive of the second battery is your power output from these batteries.

    In a SERIES setup, the output power voltage is the sum of the voltage of each battery in the series connection. So if you have two 12v 100Ah batteries wired is SERIES, the sum of the output is 24v and 100Ah.

    In a SERIES setup, you must have the same type, and size batteries.

    But in your PARALLEL setup, you can use any type, size and age of battery with any other type, size or age battery.

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