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Thread: Bleeding brakes on a Rangie.??????

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    Malibu9 Guest

    Bleeding brakes on a Rangie.??????

    Why cant I bleed the system? I have done everything the book says and I have put 1 litre of brake fluid through the system to no avail. I have tried pumping up the brakes and then releasing the bleed nipple and repeating this until all the air bubbles dissapear starting with the one furtherest away from the master cylinder. I have also tried what the manual states by releasing the bleed nipple and pumping the brakes every 5 seconds until all air bubbles dissapear and I still have no brakes. I had to change the rear line because it was cracked that is the only reason why the brakes need to be bled so as far as I know the brakes should be fine as nothing was wrong with them beforehand. I even tried pumping the fluid through the lines using a pressurised tyre tube it worked like a treat and pushed the fluid through until it was clear but you guessed it still no brakes.

    Please Help.....
    Thanks.....

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    have you bled all four wheels?

    dont use the pumping method. start by holding down the brake pedal
    then releasing the bleed nipple till the pedal hits the floor then close the bleed nipple before you let the pedal up. keep doing this till there is no bubbles in the fluid coming out. (oh...you will a second person for this
    unless you have arms and legs 2 metres long)

    after bleeding all wheels do the process once more to make sure there is
    no air in the system. you should have a good firm pedal now.
    if you have drum brakes make sure they are correctly adjusted.
    if you have disc brakes all round and still dont get a pedal after bleeding
    and assuming nothing else is split or leaking on the brake system
    it is now safe to assume the master cylinder is dead.

    they do have a habit of doing this while bleeding brakes on occassions.

    let me know what happens.

    good luck

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    From memory the front calipers have 3 bleed nipples and 2 have to be bled at the same time. Pressure bleeder should make it easy for you. (Try and get hold of a Gunsens Ezi-bleed or similar)

    Its been about 8 years since I last did my Rangie brakes so the above may be wrong.


    Bushie

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    You are right about the 3 nipples on the front calipers 2 are for the primary system and the other 1 is for the secondary system. I had the car at the mechanics today and it looks like the master cylinder is dead so I will put a new one on. Shop around for a master cylinder if you ever need to replace 1 I was qouted from $300 to $1100.

    A word of warning about bleeding the brakes on a Rangie I have been told when you bleed them not push the pedal all the way to the floor as this can prematualy stuff the master cylinder. I was lucky when I lost my brakes I was already at the bottom of Galston Gorge.

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    The new second hand master cylinder is in and it is good as gold. When I bled the brakes this time the pedal wasn't pressed in any further than 50mm it took forever to do and my girlfriend was sick of it after about an hour. Thanks to all for your input once again you guys have made life much easier.

    Is there anywhere in Sydney that reco master cylinders as it would be handy to have spare?

    Cheers Paul.....

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    Originally posted by Malibu9

    A word of warning about bleeding the brakes on a Rangie I have been told when you bleed them not push the pedal all the way to the floor as this can prematualy stuff the master cylinder.
    This is very true.

    Always get pressure by 5 short pumps.

    Dave

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    Paul

    Any good brake place should be able to get it done (or point you in the right direction)

    Have had a Rangie one done and a S3 phase 1 also. (but a few years ago)


    Bushie

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    depending if it is pitted too badly.....if its not pitted all it needs is a hone
    which is more of a clean than anything then a new seal kit put through it.
    if it is pitted it will need to be re sleeved internaly. can be fixed but depends on how much it will cost. not too keen on just bolting up a second
    hand master after if has been sitting around. there is always a chance
    it may let go at any time without warning. second hand master cylinders in my opinion should always have a seal kit put through them.

    i coulld tell you a story as to why from a friend who didnt my advice,
    (thought he knew better than me i guess).

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    That sux.

    I bled the brakes on my rangie a few months age (pushing it right to the floor) and lo and behold, stuffed master cylinder now.

    Wish I'd known that then...

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