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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    There's a bare 300Tdi head in the Markets. It's flat, compared to Serg's which has slightly spherical combustion chambers.

    http://www.aulro.com/apc/showproduct...t/6866/cat/all

    James.
    The HS2.8 head looks flat to me, apart from a small recess which is slightly larger than on the 300. Serg?

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    Arthur, it has been in the back of a few minds that just maybe a turbo seal. For two reasons, #1 **** happens and sometime things just break/fail and #2 since I fixed the trubo, with oxy/acet to silver solder the actuator rod pin back into the plate, heat was applied....BUT, it was localised to the needed area, AND, turbos see quite high temps in normal operation. The heat was not applied internally at all.

    Turbo will be going to a specialist in brisbane (Mike Vine?) to be checked

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The HS2.8 head looks flat to me, apart from a small recess which is slightly larger than on the 300. Serg?
    It's quite possible I need glasses. I'm nearly at that age .

    James.

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    It took me 3 months to get to the bottom of my oil consumption. I'm hoping others here can sort it sooner.

    Can you post up pics of your intake manifold and pipe setup? Just want to see if liquid in the manifold would run into #2 or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The HS2.8 head looks flat to me, apart from a small recess which is slightly larger than on the 300. Serg?
    well I bloody hope I dont need a new one thank you very much!....but Im thinking there may be some difference in the 300tdi to 2.8tgv. The bore centers on the 2.8tgv are close between #1 and #2 and between #3 and #4, with a larger gap between #2 and #3.....not sure about the 300tdi??? from the pics in that add it looks kinda of equal across the head

    EDIT: International's part# for the head is 70993464, is that a LR part#?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    It took me 3 months to get to the bottom of my oil consumption. I'm hoping others here can sort it sooner.

    Can you post up pics of your intake manifold and pipe setup? Just want to see if liquid in the manifold would run into #2 or not.
    The truck is at the mechanics, I will be going in tomorrow to drop off some more info and to pic up some bits to run around for him. I will get some for you.

    EDIT: I just uploaded this short vid from when I was trying to start it. You may be able to get an idea from it:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOLLxH1KUA&feature=plcp&context=C3e5ab61U DOEgsToPDskKdTCeHfZL-zF25ogDwr5Zr"]dead 2.8tgv.MTS - YouTube[/ame]

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    Scuttlebutt is that it's the same head when you order a replacement 300Tdi head these days ?

    Bore centres are the same across both engines, that's why I'd reckon there has to be more meat in a 2.8 block than there is when you bore out a 300Tdi to fit 2.8 pistons.

    All parts are still available in South America, apparently it's just crate engines that aren't available anymore.

    Just a shame our Portuguese and Spanish is non existent.

    Just had a thought, have you PM'd Jase at all ?

    The other one to try is PM Santiago (SG1) and see if it's possible/viable for him to mail stuff from Argentina ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Scuttlebutt is that it's the same head when you order a replacement 300Tdi head these days ?

    Bore centres are the same across both engines, that's why I'd reckon there has to be more meat in a 2.8 block than there is when you bore out a 300Tdi to fit 2.8 pistons.

    All parts are still available in South America, apparently it's just crate engines that aren't available anymore.

    Just a shame our Portuguese and Spanish is non existent.

    Just had a thought, have you PM'd Jase at all ?

    The other one to try is PM Santiago (SG1) and see if it's possible/viable for him to mail stuff from Argentina ?
    I will know more tonight after I speak with M&D. I feel more comfortable dealing with someone in the UK (no language barrier) than trying to sort stuff ex Argentina. Has Jase been around here at all???

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    Liquid runs up hill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    It took me 3 months to get to the bottom of my oil consumption. I'm hoping others here can sort it sooner.

    Can you post up pics of your intake manifold and pipe setup? Just want to see if liquid in the manifold would run into #2 or not.
    The air from the turbo on a 300TDi ( the 2.8tgv is the same ), goes in the bottom of the intercooler the air speed picks up the oil and causes a mist which is carried on up into the motor.
    This is the same principle a oil bath air cleaner works , but in the case of the air cleaner, there is wire gauze in the body of the air cleaner which captures the oil spray and then it drips back into the oil reservoir carrying any dirt particle with it.
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    Last edited by wrinklearthur; 16th February 2012 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Looked at the video

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post
    The air from the turbo on a 300TDi ( the 2.8tgv is the same ), goes in the bottom of the intercooler the air speed picks up the oil and causes a mist which is carried on up into the motor.
    This is the same principle a oil bath air cleaner works , but in the case of the air cleaner, there is wire gauze in the body of the air cleaner which captures the oil spray and then it drips back into the oil reservoir carrying any dirt particle with it.
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    And confirmed by Serge's video above.
    Honestly to get enough oil into the engine to hydraulic it, you would need to fill the intercooler. Further it doesn't look internally like the engine has been hydraulic'd.
    I'm thinking the oil is a red-herring and the run-away problem (and cylinder damge) may be completely unrelated to the high oil level.

    Serge, there is a Brazillian guy on 4btswaps.com who could do with a productive research job on 2.8 parts. He loves diesels and knows a lot about which vehicles and engines are available there. Let me know if you want to get him in contact.

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