Thread: Did You know this 'Can' happen to a diesel (Death by oil)

Originally Posted by wrinklearthur

In light of what has happened, could the Isuzu card be back on the table and keeping the gearbox as is for now?

logic is telling me yes, but $$$ and time telling me no

It would mean a new cutsom install, engine mounts, bell housing to gearbox, new rads etc etc. It would mean sorucing an engine and one that was in fairly good condition so more $$$..

I do have the Sals rear and upgraded front diff (internal and external) But the R380 is a bit sticky and 300,000k old...and I tow.

to me the only neg of a Isuzu is the weight.

not as much more than the diesel lump thats already there... bet if we pull the winch and bar off the front you wouldnt notice the difference in handling with the 4bd1 in there.

yep, and the one in there is already heavier and further forward than the original vehicle the suspension geometry was designed around....compounded once is enough. I have the kit and one day my engine will be 8 inches further back....

I got word the head is very good for hardness. Apparently valves are ok as well. It is going to be cleaned and rebuilt with new valve stem seals.

Not so good was hearing from the diesel injection shop that hs told me they need to replace all 4 nozzels and some parts for the injectors. They have to get these from Bosch ex Germany for the small price of $840.00 ....now thats about the price of brand new 300tdi injectors, or so I have been told. From the sounds of it the pump is ok, but at over $1k from just the injector shop, this is looking ugly. Parts, machining and labour are going to put this at 3/4 new purchase price IMO

I have told the Injection shop not to order any parts as of yet, Im going to find out what they cost new from the UK.

I think these injectors are similar but different to the 300tdi. Numbers on the injector are:

KBAL 90 P 37
0432 193 532 TURKEY 939 (939 has a line around it) 782 (<-----the 0432 number is not a phone number as skype would think, bloody pc's)

They are Bosch made. They dont have the same part number in the HS2.8tgv parts catalouge (all Land Rover parts from the 300tdi that are used on this engine share the same part numbers)

Originally Posted by uninformed

I think these injectors are similar but different to the 300tdi. Numbers on the injector are:

KBAL 90 P 37
0432 193 532 TURKEY 939 (939 has a line around it) 782 (<-----the 0432 number is not a phone number as skype would think, bloody pc's)

They are Bosch made. They dont have the same part number in the HS2.8tgv parts catalouge (all Land Rover parts from the 300tdi that are used on this engine share the same part numbers)

That is exactly the same as one of the options listed here for Tdis
United Diesel UK &ndash; Land Rover Diesel Injector Parts

Part Number:
0432 193 835 Our Part Number:
0432 193 835R
Number on Injector:
KBAL90P37 O.E. Number:
ERR 3339 Enquire
Model Ltr. kW/hp Engine Code Year of
Manufacture
Defender 110 2.5 Tur 2.5 80 - 83 Gemini TCI D.I 23L 08/1990 - 12/2001
Defender 110 2.5 Tur 2.5 85 Maxion HS4TCC 08/1998 -
Defender 130 2.5 Tur 2.5 85 Maxion HS4TCC 08/1998 -
Defender 130 2.5 Tur 2.5 80 - 83 Gemini TCI D.I 23L 08/1990 - 12/2001
Defender 90 2.5 Turb 2.5 85 Maxion HS4TCC 08/1998 -
Defender 90 2.5 Turb 2.5 80 - 83 Gemini TCI D.I 23L 08/1990 - 12/2001
Discovery 2.5 TDi 2.5 83 19L 10/1993 - 12/1998
Range Rover 1 2.5 D 2.5 83 300 TDi 10/1994 - 04/1996

Originally Posted by uninformed

I got word the head is very good for hardness. Apparently valves are ok as well. It is going to be cleaned and rebuilt with new valve stem seals.

Not so good was hearing from the diesel injection shop that hs told me they need to replace all 4 nozzels and some parts for the injectors. They have to get these from Bosch ex Germany for the small price of $840.00 ....now thats about the price of brand new 300tdi injectors, or so I have been told. From the sounds of it the pump is ok, but at over $1k from just the injector shop, this is looking ugly. Parts, machining and labour are going to put this at 3/4 new purchase price IMO

I have told the Injection shop not to order any parts as of yet, Im going to find out what they cost new from the UK.

I think these injectors are similar but different to the 300tdi. Numbers on the injector are:

KBAL 90 P 37
0432 193 532 TURKEY 939 (939 has a line around it) 782 (<-----the 0432 number is not a phone number as skype would think, bloody pc's)

They are Bosch made. They dont have the same part number in the HS2.8tgv parts catalouge (all Land Rover parts from the 300tdi that are used on this engine share the same part numbers)

2FH KBAL 90 P 37 is the Bosch 300Tdi part #

68 quid each from Paddock's in the UK.

Great news about the head too.

Sorry I missed the call today, I was on a roof and the bloody phone hasn't stopped since.

I do wonder if that # KBAL 90 P37 is the body and the internals different. The old injector I was given and converted into the compression adapter has this number on it, but all the others on it different. The guy that gave it to me said it was from a merc.

Originally Posted by uninformed

I do wonder if that # KBAL 90 P37 is the body and the internals different. The old injector I was given and converted into the compression adapter has this number on it, but all the others on it different. The guy that gave it to me said it was from a merc.

There is no reason an HS2.8 wouldn't run the same injectors as a 300Tdi. The difference in capacity is minimal, and it is the IP that controls the amount of fuel delivered, not the injectors.

Forgot to say - good news on the head.

How bad are your injectors??? Enough to melt a piston?