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Thread: Pinning Liners in a 4.6

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    Like I said, it was a thought. However, on the Winter Wombat 2013 there was a P38 with one in it, and it was awesome. The whole thing, car included ( the P38), cost around 12K. So I wouldn't dismiss it that quickly. And, rebuilding a 4.6 isn't cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin B View Post
    I have 2 complete 3.5's here I got for nothing so ill probably just stick with the best one of those unless I can find a 3.9 to do instead
    Do you want a 3.9? My son has one. If he wants to part with it is something only he knows. I wanted it to put in my FIAT, but that's probably not going to happen.

    PM him: C.tins is his username.

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    summary: same price, but ls1 double the power
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    That was my concern with a 4.6 If I went that way then I would possibly have to do the trans and diffs ect, what then started out as a simple engine refresh becomes vrry costly.
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    from TRS:

    Hi
    We can help with the following
    4l stepped liner short $4100 4.6l stepped liner short $5500 the usual labor cost is around $2000 to remove & refit
    Regards Phil


    $5500 + $2000 = $7500


    4.6 168kw 380Nm
    ls1 225kw 460Nm

    +30% power
    +20% torque
    thats the max figure.
    the power band fatter just above idle, yet linear as the rpm rise.


    the ls1 plan im putting together comes to $9500

    fuel systems, cooling system, air-conditioning are easy to do
    cruise control, dont have it in the first place

    in sa engineering would be easy as its a rigid chassis, similar weight engine, and brakes are vented. wouldnt need an eng cert.

    you mentioned a new 4.6 for 4-4.5k, but thats not top hatted, so add 1k+ for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
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    the ls1 plan im putting together comes to $9500
    Fitted? Would that figure also apply to a P38? The ZF should take the torque, shouldn't it? I'm asking 'cos I know where there's a cheap P38. Although the budget won't stretch that far just at the moment, I was very impressed by the car I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Fitted? Would that figure also apply to a P38? The ZF should take the torque, shouldn't it? I'm asking 'cos I know where there's a cheap P38. Although the budget won't stretch that far just at the moment, I was very impressed by the car I mentioned.
    yes fitted.
    drive in, drive out.

    i have a R380, so i cant comment on the P38 or the ZF.

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    yeah, hence why i was looking at other options (ls1)
    i emailed them cause i wanted a baseline/comparison.

    from what i've read, the crate engine still can suffer from slipped liners and/or cracked block. im pretty sure my 4.0 is faulty. i could fix it, but i dont like spending money and having the same as what i had before. if i spend money, i want something better. 4.6 is better but not cost effective to bulletproof. but ls1 is just so much better in almost every respect. power and torque both near idle and up high, better economy.


    stock LS1 one.
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    i see we have moved on considerably from the original question about Pinning the liners in a 4.6...

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    ive been thinking about creating a thread. maybe this weekend i'll get my thoughts together.
    there is a ls1 d2 on youtube, so its been done before

    my mechanic says cause i have a manual d2, its a little bit easier to do compared to an auto.

    im still tryng to get it all sorted in my head but most of the electronics are in the bcu


    need to work out of the hill decent control talks to the ecu, and getting something to replicate the signals it needs.
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