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    Oils Ain't Oils

    I am planning on doing a complete fluid change when I take delivery of the '95 300Tdi Defender next week. Having had clean fingernails for several years, I have forgotten a lot of stuff, so bear with me, please. I have searched the threads but feel justified in starting a new one.

    1. Engine oil. Is anyone familiar with Chief Seneca 15W40? Seems good value from SupaCheap Auto for $55 x 10l.
    2. Gearbox - I don't want to put ATF DexII or III in having read many comments in the threads. So I'm thinking Chief Tanoa 75W90, 4l @ $35. About $5 more than the ATF.
    3. Diffs - Chief Tanoa Gear Oil 80W90 4l @ $27

    No, this isn't a viral marketing plug for Chief oils. I am thinking if I use all the same stuff then there is only one mob to curse should something go wrong. Price and reviews so far support the hypothesis, but maybe someone here knows more? Are Nulon products worth the extra money? What about Penrite? For reasons of time and simplicity I prefer to buy all at once from the one place.

    I also noted the Ryco oil, fuel and air filters are far more expensive than what I can order online, like double. I have a Cooper oil filter for a 3.9V8 Disco I '94 that I believe is the same part as for the 300Tdi. Yes?

    Lastly, I will never forget draining the gearbox on Wally for the first time, then discovering the filler plug is a torque thingy. I didn't have any and managed to make it, on foot, to the now long gone local parts place just as they were closing. Why, Land Rover... why? What's wrong with a hex nut, or a square nut or a regular kind of thingy? No, you have to use a torque.

    Anyway, any comments will be appreciated.

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    I've found the cheaper oil to be fine for the engine but change it more often new cheap oil is still much better then old expensive oil and regular oil change is the best preventative maintenance that an engine can have.

    Also I would never do an oil change without a Molybdenum Disulphide additive, the engine runs noticeably quieter and cooler with it. The MoS2 additives are great in the diffs too, I've also tried the PTFE additives and found them to be a waste of money though.

    As for non dex ATF in an automatic gearbox, you're on your own with that but hope it goes well

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    Quote Originally Posted by rc42 View Post
    As for non dex ATF in an automatic gearbox, you're on your own with that but hope it goes well
    Not too many 300tdi Defenders with an auto.
    I think he's referring to the original spec for the gearbox which was later revised by LR to a MTF spec oil.
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    I think some oils are made to include a large margin for marketing and promotion costs and the price doesn't necessarily reflect the manufacturing costs; more a case of we need oil in this bracket, this bracket and some really expensive stuff in this bracket. I agree, better to have new but cheaper oil in regularly than leave expensive stuff in too long.

    I won't use the ATF in the gearbox but go for the MTF. Anyway, first complete fluid change is now on hold thanks to the heart attack that happened two hours after I returned from the delivery trip (Gold Coast to Sydney). No straining oneself or driving for 2 weeks. Bugger.

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    That's a bugger, was the trip stressful due to weather. Look after yourself, what are you doing re other fluids, belts, hoses etc?
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Clancy's gone to Queensland Rovering, and we don't know where he are

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    The weather was a factor but the stress was more the worry that if anything went wrong I had wife and five kids to look after. I had 'contingencies' in the form of NRMA top cover insurance in case of accident and NRMA roadside assistance for breakdown; both of which would get us home safely but one still prefers not to have to call for help.

    I think it was more a case of my time had come. So, big life review now. I will sit in the Defender and ponder the way ahead... while noting down the fixes I really should get around to!

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    Wake up call alright? How old are you? I'm in the danger zone now, brobably should de-stress, but running a business AND a RRC I doubt I will!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowbound View Post
    Wake up call alright? How old are you? I'm in the danger zone now, brobably should de-stress, but running a business AND a RRC I doubt I will!
    I am 53, obese, was a smoker and now also diabetic so right in the frame on all counts. Such is life, so much easier for me to become one of the insufferable converted and live a perfect lifestyle.... now the horse has kicked the crap out of the stable door...and remind everyone at every opportunity to don't do this, don't do that. Nah, I'll just chill and mind my own.

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    You would like our Company Doctor here, your a fat bastard, have a beer
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
    apologies to Socrates

    Clancy MY15 110 Defender

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    G'day
    I'm one of the converted... gave up smoking 40+ per day and a pipe & cigars, which made me unbearable to my smoking colleagues....and now that I've 'reversed' my Type II diabetes AND lost 30+ kg and kept it off for nigh on 3 years.... I'm an expert at being self-righteous and insufferable !

    All of this after several heart proceedures.... got half a dozen stents in mine, and blood sugars high enough to lose my licence.
    Good news is, you can re-build the stable door and get your life on track, so you can spend time on dirt tracks...

    Since we LR tragics are a DIY mob, I'll suggest one book to point you in the right direction. (Conventional medical advice will NOT help you...).
    - Gary Taubes' "Why we get fat and what to do about it" Get it on evilbay, and google it on you-tube, which is easier than having me rant and rave...

    PM if you want more details... am off to my Flying Lesson now.

    (more addictive than owning a Classic Range Rover.)

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