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    Looking for engine conversion ideas for a series 3

    After a long series of autopsies 8O i've finally admitted defeat, OldDogs engine is beyond rescue save installing new liners (60 thou over + serious scoring in all bores). Everything is worn out including the dizzy / carb / cam / big ends / mains etc so it would be a major rebuild At the moment i've slapped it all back together so i can move it around only.

    So far -
    I've found another 2.6 which will cost approx $400 delivered here, condition is it has glased bores but supposedly 50000 kms old. This is the prefered option so far as it's quick and cheap, but my planned rego date is shot in the foot anyway, may as well do it once/do it properly.

    Holden 6 conversion, approx $600 for conversion kit + need a blue motor, how much for a good one? + needs to be engineered + been told they are too powerful for the standard s3 box?

    Rover V8, can these be adapted to S3 box? I notice that Auto-eng has one for a good price in the for sale section.

    Holden V8 (253) possible?
    What about diesels? Not really keen on cutting up the body / chassis. I'm not an originality fanatic, but i'm not interested in making mods that can't be reversed.

    Any other suggestions i havn't thought of?
    Thanks
    Bill

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    Now why am I not surprised to see this ? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

    Blue motor ??? Why not stick a black one in and pick up EFI ? Blue motor cost... gee I dunno.. the last one I got which is still in the shed was free. Whether it would fire is another possibility altogether. Actually all my recent motors have been free. Who you know. :wink:

    Engineering is about $500 and depending what the guy is like determines whether the car needs to be present for the inpsection. Had the name of a guy on that one too. :wink:

    202 too powerful for a S3 box.... Ummm... okay and I've only a 186. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

    253 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]
    327 Chev [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Or you could go the v6 motor with the T700 behind it, I mean they shoehorn them into sierras so surely you'd get one in a landy. Should geta whole car for $500... again.. who you know.

    diesels.. you sure you wanna go slower ? Well the brother in law has a Daihatsu 2.5 in his with the 5 speed then a linkage shaft to the transfer so first gear is really really really low. So I know they fit.

    Then again you could just cut your losses and buy that series 3 yoot off Ebay for 5 grand that's been fully remanufactured and save the heartache.

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    its cheaper to buy a battered rusty wreck with good mechanicals than just the motor....plenty of commodores in the trading post.

    take what you need then call the scrap metal collectors to take away what you dont need at no charge.

    this way you get all injection plumbing wiring and anything else you might need complete...and the best part is you know it works as you just drove it.

    any time i needed an engine or gearbox or anything else i would do exactly this and wreck it myself.....complete car would cost $100.
    drive it home and fix mine. commodores may cost a little more.

    any left over bits i didnt need...including old engine...would go in the wreck and get picked up by the scrap metal merchants..free.

    theres another idea for you. used to work for me.

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    Trouble is he's miles from anywhere....

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    even better...paddocks full of dumped cars.....most of them probably just out of fuel.

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    I know of a landy 2.6 down here, but that would be a bit of postage, no idea of price though.

    Holden is OK, i've got the earlier red (173) with some blue bits on it. Black would be the go, you just have to add a sensor to the flywheel from memory.

    try here for more holden conversion info

    http://users.mrbean.net.au/~rover/holden.htm

    but if you want to restore it, keep the 2.6, far less headaches.
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    i think dollars are the main issue....headaches are a lot cheaper [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Depends on what he wants it's ability to be.

    He has to bear in mind the further from normal the more custom work needs to be done to the chassis, the more difficult it becomes to satisfy engineers and probably the more cost for the conversion in the long term (more fuel, obscure parts, increased strain on remaining LR parts like hub members/axles etc.)

    Will also depend on the condition of the vehicle.


    I have learned the hard way, if you're gonna own a old rover, remanufacture it from the ground up rather than trust the previous owner or "patch up" little problems. So I'd suggest OldDog treat this as an opportunity in disguise, start again and build the weapon you want. Might cost a bit, but hey, no one has a price on happiness. :wink:

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    Watchit, Loooonnnngggg Reply

    Thanks for the input everyone, guess i should've mentioned what exactly i want to acheive with this. When i got the old beastie i was going to just give it a quick cheap touch up and stick it back on the road.
    Since the passing of the origional motor i'm in the position to rethink what i'm trying to acheive, my original completion date is buggered so i'll do what you suggest Jay and do it right.
    I'm not going to improve the body work, it's full of dents and creases and thats the way i like it. I reckon series Landrovers are the only vehicles that look better with panel damage [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    I'm not going to cut the body or chassis, after all it has a certain amount of heritage and who knows someone might want to buy it off me to restore one day, so no chopped X members for a start. That won't stop me from adding things that can be cut off later though.
    I want it to be reliable, and able to travel at the speed limit. Economy would be nice but anythings probably better than the 2.6. I don't want to lose any of it's 4wd ability, low range ratios etc. Oh and it has to be reliable [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    In NSW we have to use a motor of the same age or younger with the appropriate polution controls.
    So, i'm considering (in no particular order) another 2.6 ltr landy motor, i've got leads on 2 by the look of it, hopefully they are in better condition than the one i have. Then possibly add the high ratio transfer case mod or Fairey overdrive.
    Holden blue motor conversion, i don't want to do the injection thing as if it breaks down out here i have to be able to repair it (be nice but). I think Rod Hadfield does a kit that does need any chassis mods?
    I notice that Dellow also does a conversion for Holden and Ford six? Any comments on the Ford? I should be able to find a complete car for a donor. And then add an overdrive
    I'm seriously considering the 3.5 rover V8 option, after all the stage 1 had one (with a different box) so it may be easier to get passed by an engineer. I can get an adapter ring off Langy for this to adapt it to the standard S3 gearbox. Did the Stage 1 have the same brakes etc as the six? Anyway, possibly add overdrive here too.
    Guess the diesel conversions out Jay? Laughed my ass off at that reply [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    Dunno if i want to go to the added expense of a stronger box etc but if i was to go that way then i may as well go feral and put in a V8 with a TH400 and LR transfer or something equally crazy .

    Anyway, i'll be calling the engineer bloke and asking him the questions tomorrow to see what he thinks. I think i'll find out how far i can go and work from that.

    Any suggestions / advice / offers of good medication, gratefully accepted [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
    Thanks
    Bill

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    You do know that a Rover 3litre from a car is the same engine but with a far better head designed by Weslake?
    They are probably few and far between but would be a good power up swap.
    regards Philip A

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