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    Clutch issues - the pedal is solid - Defender 110

    A couple of weeks ago, I noticed that the fluid level in the clutch was a very low, topped it up and its been fine since. However, yesterday, jumped in the car, went to press the pedal - it felt a bit strange then went to the floor and stayed there. Manually lifted it back up but now it's solid - no movement at all. I have no idea whether this is related to the fluid issue or 2 separate issues.

    Chatting to a friend who suggested that the fork has probably broken as this seems to be a reasonably common fault.

    How easy/hard is it to change the fork? I should probably check the complete clutch etc if I'm pulling it all out. What else should be done while its all apart?

    I have never changed a clutch/gearbox before. I probably have the tools but not the space to do it. The gearbox/transfer was quite noisy and there was a significant drop in noise when the clutch was pressed. I do have another gearbox and transfer to fit - fingers crossed its all ok.

    Is it something that I should attempt myself or safer to get a shop to do it - apart from the expense. The car was a hire vehicle in its former life and has about 300k on it now.
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    A hard pedal would suggest master or slave cylinder failure, jammed piston.
    Replacing both may get you going again.
    By removing the slave cylinder you should be able to determine the condition of the clutch fork.
    To replace the clutch, it is easier to pull the motor on a defender.
    In your case, if the spare gearbox is known to be in good nick, then box out would be the way to go.


    You'll need,
    New spigot bush (get 2, in case the first 1 shatters)
    Clutch kit (HD 130)
    throw out bearing
    Heavy duty fork
    Flywheel will need machining (MR do an exchange unit)


    Other things to look at.
    The rear main seal (engine) could be replaced if it's leaking .
    Welsh Plugs, there is one at the back of the block normally not accessible.
    If pulling the engine, check engine mounts, coolant hoses
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    I'm assuming it is 200/300 TDI
    '95 Defender 130 Single Cab
    HS2.8 TGV Powered
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    98% of all Land Rovers built are still on the road.
    The other 2% made it home.

    Cost difference between Britpart and Genuine seals: £2.04. Knowing that your brakes won't fail at any moment: Priceless.

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    Thanks, yes 300tdi. Coolant hoses have been recently done as have quite a few other things.
    98 Harvey the tractor - 300 tdi Defender Wagon
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    First thing I would try is to open the bleeder nipple on the slave cyl. If your pedal goes down this eliminates the master cyl. If this tests ok I would then remove the slave cyl and check.

    As for your noise that goes away when clutch is disengaged. There are two causes here, either the clutch plate or a gearbox problem.

    To identify clutch, take the engine revs to about 1200 rpm. If the noise goes away it is clutch. Not exactly correct here. It is engine harmonics being transmitted through the clutch plate. 4bd1's have this chronic, and to my knowledge can't be fixed, whereas I have done many a vehicle where a different brand of clutch plate can fix it.

    If the noise is is still there when with revs increased it is in the gearbox.
    Dave.

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    Sounds like a broken clutch fork, classic symptom when the pivot has punched through the fork.

    If it's done 200,000km+ everything will need changing anyway, the wear on the diaphragm fingers, etc will be substantial.

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