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28th April 2005, 06:56 AM
#1
Zeus Timing Gears
Found the site the other day,
www.yican.com.au
when looking for schematics. Has anyone actually tried them. They have a tesitmonial from the LROV (victoria) The website photos look better than a belt being dragged about, my only concern is how are they lubricated. But the overall concept sounds good.
Any views and more importantly what is the cost I am not game to enquire.
john
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28th April 2005, 07:24 AM
#2
The cost is horrendous, and they have had quality issues. There was a HUGE thread on the LRE forum a couple of years ago which got quite heated, I'll see if I can find it.
Not worth the money IMHO, you can do a few timing belt changes for the same $$.
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28th April 2005, 07:36 AM
#3
You might find this of interest:
http://www.rovingtheglobe.com/default.asp?...ntroduction.asp
Sounds like while they work everything is grand, but when they don't you can be just as badly off as when a belt fails!
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28th April 2005, 08:09 AM
#4
The LRE thread is here
A more recent "Death by Zeus" incident is here
Paul [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
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28th April 2005, 08:13 AM
#5
I thought I would investigate a bit further after i placed this post and found the roving the globe website (google is a great search engine)
Well after reading the problems they had, not a worthwhile exercise.
I suppose if the concept was any good L/R would have done it.
john
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28th April 2005, 02:14 PM
#6
Sadly they have to many failures.
Buy a Timing belt tool kit and spend a day every 2 years and do your own belt.
When you do the Math it pays to keep the timing belt.
But if you were to go to a Stealer then the $$ might pay for a gear set.
i spoke to a guy in Aust once who had a set. He had dramas and it cost him thousands to have the car recovered and fixed. he was in a legal battle when i spoke to him.
there is another guy who had a set fitted. he claims he has travelled 150,000km on them. when asked over how many years and when they were fitted it did not add up. i think he might have added another zero on the end figure....
I suppose if they were a excellent idea and the $$ were ok then you might get a set.
On a 200 i would never bother as 200's dont destroy belts like 300's seem to do. A mechanic i spoke to told me to do the belt on the 200's every 100k as a matter of habit, not nessesity. Then the 300's should be done every 60k as a matter of nessesity. Hence why i was looking at sticking to 200's when i bought a fender. Mind you finding a 200 fender was not easy. i thought i was going to have to get a 300. Either way, Both great engines and if looked after both should last 400k
My 15c (not worth half a phone call)
Steve
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28th April 2005, 03:25 PM
#7
Re: Zeus Timing Gears
Originally posted by JohnE
Found the site the other day,
www.yican.com.au
when looking for schematics. Has anyone actually tried them. They have a tesitmonial from the LROV (victoria) The website photos look better than a belt being dragged about, my only concern is how are they lubricated. But the overall concept sounds good.
Any views and more importantly what is the cost I am not game to enquire.
john
Will Warne ( from the second LRE link), who is a mate of mine , had the gears and they caused his 300 TDi to blow up.
I spent weeks (and still am ) taking the **** out of him, due to the fact i have broken 3 cam belts in my Landy over 4 years (due to my own speacial ruff arse way). All of them broke at high revs. They cost me £150 for the garage to fix them (not me the garage). So as you can see i think it is chaeper to keep with the cam belt and replace when needed. If anything goes wrong then you have a back up which will save the most expensive part of your truck.
Will spent a fortune to have the gears fitted and then it cost him a fortune to get the engine replaced when it blow up due to the gears.
Also they are noisey too
There are usally more important and better toys to buy for your truck first before spending out on these waste of time gears
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28th April 2005, 06:05 PM
#8
I thought about fitting the Zeus gears but I decided that it would be cheeper to just change the belt on a regular basis.
On top of that, if the belt does let go, it's not a major job to fix everything. Unlike engines with overhead cams, you don't get "Bendy toy valves" when the belt lets go. Instead, the pushrods bend and as a worst case you break the rockers. All of this can be accessed through the rocker cover without having to take the head off.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>due to my own speacial ruff arse way[/b][/quote]
Just be gentle & use lubricant.... :wink: Are you a giver or taker? :?
Mark
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28th April 2005, 06:32 PM
#9
Very interesting....a cure worse than the disease.
I think that we have a member here (Tusker) who used to have a Disco 200Tdi with the Zeus set up. But he sold it so I guess he doesn't lose any sleep.
The globalrovers are making slow progress.
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29th April 2005, 08:18 AM
#10
It seems I have created a monster by mentioning the 'Zeus' product. But in one way its good to bring the failings to the attention of those who don't know( me included)much about the product.
There are pro's and cons to discussion boards, the pro's are alerting others to the sellers of 'snakeoil' quickfixes and general junk that is propogated under the guise of improvements to existing systems.
When it is all said and done if most of the mechanical aftermarket stuff was any good wouldn't the manufacturers incorporate the item in their vehicles.
Enough of the big words, I'm getting confused.
Mr One I, the wandering Glenn Innes boys seem to be taking their time,2 years to get to Perth. But after reading how much it cost to repair their vehicle after the Zeus cogs failed it is no wonder. Funny part of that is my wife comes from Glenn Innes, I wonder if the town knows the boys are on a big trip.
john
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