Thread: Front Prop shaft failure - Discovery

Interesting Hiline.
I'm lucky I've never had a vibration from the standard uni front shaft, although I'm only around 110mm between the front bumpstops ATM.

While this post is very interesting and gives us all something else to check. I find it disturbing that Gary has to resort to threats in order to get past the customer service folk at L.R.
When in doubt always bypass the minions and go straight to the top. That includes help desk staff, keep asking for their manager then the managers manager and so on.
Gary not knowing your problem, don't be afraid to give them any adverse publicity, regardless of the consequence.That includes fair trading and the like.

Which brings me back to the problem at hand Mr Walker, I am assuming the good people at L/R gave you a written denial of claim. If not demand one.

thats all

john

Originally posted by disconut+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(disconut)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-rick130
The Series III Stage I front shaft is a double cradan type, and seems to be the go for Defenders these days.

Just checked mine and its a good old universal joint. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

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Excuse my ignorance ops: , but what exactly is a "cradan type" :?: 8O

Originally posted by rick130
Interesting Hiline.
I'm lucky I've never had a vibration from the standard uni front shaft, although I'm only around 110mm between the front bumpstops ATM.

we thought they would give us a better angle for the front shaft
since my car is raised 4inchs

the front shaft knocks on the top flange :x :x
but with the cardial joint it was fine, just didn't last long

so like i said back to the original steep angle and the knocking :wink:

i must add it only happens when i put the 35's on

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>but what exactly is a "cradan type[/b][/quote]

oops, a miss spell.

Should have been 'cardan' joint, which is a standard cross type universal joint.
The type of joint used in a DII is a 'double cardan' on the t/case end of the drive shaft, which reduces the operating angle (1/2) of both unis used at that end.
I've heard and read some yanks call them a CV joint which is totally incorrect.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>CARDAN JOINT

Definition: Also known as a Hooke Joint, Universal Joint or U-Joint, it is a simple flexible coupling using a double yoke and four-point center cross. Cardan joints are used as couplings in the driveshafts of rear-wheel drive cars. Because they can produce uneven shaft speeds when operated at joint angles of more than a few degrees, they're usually not used with front-wheel drive (because the front wheels also steer and create large operating angles

This is what the DII and Stage I 'double cardan' joint looks like


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Originally posted by Rosco
Excuse my ignorance ops: , but what exactly is a "cradan type" :?: 8O

Means a cardin joint. A cardin is a universal joint. A double cardin joint is a single joint which contains 2 universal joints and it just produces less vibration at bigger angles.

my picture's prettier Slunnie.

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Originally posted by Slunnie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Slunnie)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Rosco
Excuse my ignorance ops: , but what exactly is a "cradan type" :?: 8O

Means a cardin joint. A cardin is a universal joint. A double cardin joint is a single joint which contains 2 universal joints and it just produces less vibration at bigger angles.
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