Thread: Spot or Flood light bar up under roof rack? NSW roof light legality?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Queensland doesn't have annual inspections, you just get a notice and pay the bill.

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Same in Vic which is why I suspect there's so many stuck to the top of the bullbars. I'm even thinking of doing this myself as there's no room below for one now on the mighty Hilux, although I probably don't need it, I think 'want' sums it up better.

Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan

In WA it is actually legal to have a roof mounted lightbar as long as it is covered while on the road and not activated by high beam. It is deemed an off road or "work" light.

Yep, but most dont run covers at all and a big majority are wired up to high beam. Often get blinded by idiots with these as they hit you well before they see your lights coming toward them before they dip the high beam.
I have my second set of spots mounted on top of the bull bar and have never had an issue, but they dont interfere with the drivers vision. From what I understand they are supposed to be in line or below bonnet line and not obstruct view in anyway.

Have most of you read the article in my link in the OP?

If you have, then most are suggesting that they have got it wrong.

Originally Posted by d2dave

Have most of you read the article in my link in the OP?

If you have, then most are suggesting that they have got it wrong.

I did.
It's their opinion and interpretation.
To see the truth, you have to look at the source document. When you do, you find even that is open to interpretation.

for example, from the ADR:

7.3.4.3 In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.

One interpretation is, if they are mounted on the roof, over the driver, who in in the front seat, and do not reflect back into the eyes of the driver, they are mounted in the front i.e. the front part of the vehicle.

If you disagree, then the standard headights on a Landrover do not conform to the ADRs. That is because they ar behind the bumper bar and therefore not at the front of the vehicle.
People (and police, vehicle inspectors and other people in authority) should practice a little common sense. As long as it's not dangerous, what is wrong with it?

Here is an extract from the magazine.
The magazine has stated what they claim they were told by the relevant states authorities.

To me it is not the opinion of the magazine.

Although it is hear say, and not admissable in court.....

Any rule or regulation is interpretation. You can argue roadside noise testing too, the police that have a noise meter and do a noise check on your car are not doing it according to the regulations, therefore their "test" is not correct you can't be issued a defect, doesn't stop them though.

Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan

Although it is hear say, and not admissable in court.....

Fully agree, however a magazine like this surely should have some credibility
and you would expect their information to be accurate.

I wonder how this scenario would go. There is a fatal accident which is attributed to a driver been blinded by a roof mounted light bar.

Driver is charged because car has roof mounted light bar that the police deem illegal.

Chain of responsibility suggests that the magazine could also be found to have contributed to the accident, due to the driver believing that it was legal.

Originally Posted by d2dave

Here is an extract from the magazine.
The magazine has stated what they claim they were told by the relevant states authorities.

To me it is not the opinion of the magazine.

And magazines get it right all the time?

What is the journalists motto, "Never let the thruth get in the way of good story."

For me to take that article as fact, I would want to know the names of the people in the various registration authorities and the positions they hold. I wouldn't hold the opinion of the cleaner in Vicroads HO in high regard when it comes to motoring rules.
I've had conflicting advice from the people at the counter. That usually is the catalyst for an interesting discussion amongst Vicroads employees.