Mud Terrain tyres on sand - any good ?

**VladTepes** · 5th November 2005, 01:46 PM

Obviously I'd like 2 sets of tyres everyday/sand and extreme BUT I will probably end up with some mud-terrains, assuming they are OK on sand.

Has anyone got Mud Terrains on their truck as daily tyres and had experience driving them on sand :?: Do they work fine :?: I want to be sure they won'tdig in and bury me as I do enjoy going to Fraser etc every year (spend 10 or 12 days there), although as far as number of trips goes I usually go bush.

Any advice on this appreciated.

Assuming OK on sand I'll get whichever is cheaper at the time BFG MT's or Cooper STT's.

**Slunnie** · 5th November 2005, 01:57 PM

They give better drive on sand, and in my opinon are the way to go. The best tyres I've used on sand are actually the Simex JT2! Just dont sit there and spin. This said they dont bog you to the diff the second they spin, but the extra bite that gives you drive also makes it dig faster.

**aloa9061** · 5th November 2005, 02:30 PM

My bfg muddies are great on sand provided you air down to around 16psi.

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 6th November 2005, 07:29 AM

by all means run muds,,

just no wheelspin or they will bury you. :wink:

HSVRangie · 6th November 2005, 08:45 AM

only way to go.

Michael.

**x-box** · 6th November 2005, 09:21 AM

Vlad, have a look at the letters in front of new 4X4 Monthly mag.
Some guy complaining about BFG muddies getting dirt between bead and rim and deflating tyres.
Sure many sides to a story and this will no doubt draw heated response?
I too like the BFG m/t and are on my list next (or Cooper STT) Got 118K k's out of last set of BFG a/t, not 1 flat, so very happy with BFG. (i know a/t gets more mileage than m/t, but still a good run)

Louis

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 6th November 2005, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
by all means run muds,,

just no wheelspin or they will bury you. :wink:

just to play devils advocate,, :wink:

I am not at all convinced big nobby tyres are the way to go in sand.

momentum is far more important than knobs. ( 8O )

**abaddonxi** · 6th November 2005, 10:20 AM

I've posted this link before recently, but I reckon it's just the best tyre thing I've read.
http://www.beadell.com.au/tyre_information.htm

Can't get past their idea that all steel truck tyres are best for staking and close to for sand.

Ha ha ah?

Simon

Hellspawn · 6th November 2005, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift

just to play devils advocate,, :wink:

I am not at all convinced big nobby tyres are the way to go in sand.

momentum is far more important than knobs. ( 8O )

Momentum ? I believe that's more a mug thing unless attempting to "get off" at the dune access which for me is uphill and cut up badly. Probably a result of others with agressive tyre patterns. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]

Floatation is the key which normally doesn't require a lot of speed/momentum on the actual beach. Most "old salts" I know use second hand desert duelers for beach work. The tyres have a less agressive tread so that when down at 15psi, it's just a flat pad against the sand. Cheap at $20/tyre.

I'd suggest the least aggressive, even back to an A/T, to reduce damage on dune access for the rest of us. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

**Slunnie** · 6th November 2005, 05:23 PM

Momentum in my opinion is what you need when you dont have the traction to drive it. If you have the traction there is no damage done and you can drive it in a manner that is easy on the truck, if you need momentum and are spinning your way up/down/through then everything is being damaged. Simex's will let you drive through sand easily that has AT's bogged to the axles. Yep if you sit there and spin it will bog you, but you dont need to be the world best driver to prevent digging down. If you look at the tour MOGs on Fraser they run a similar tyre to the Simex JT2, the tour guides will run MT's.

Interestingly, when I crossed the desert, the trucks that didn't back down on any dunes had MT's, those that backed down for a couple had AT's and those that had to drop pressures even further to get through (like me) had HT tyres. I've no doubt (unfortunately) my mark was left on some of the dunes, unlike the guides.

Whatever tyre will work on sand though, just drop the pressures. How many times do you see people with high or too high pressures stuffing everything up.

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