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    Labelling wiring and relays

    Hi Guys,

    I'm going to tidy up the rats nest of wiring under the bonnet of the old rangie.



    There is already a bunch of 3 relays there for the petrol/lpg switching which I'll move to the "numberplate mount". There is 3 series parallel relays for the radiator fans ... and the car desperately needs headlight relays. I think I'll relay lowbeam using the parking lights as the signal wire .... only feed the power through the normally closed contact on the high beam relay. That way we will alway have low beam working ( unless high beam is on ). I recently fitted a brand new light switch ... and the POS drops out low beam all the time ... new straight out of the box ... sigh.

    So I'll have 3 x lpg, 3 x radiator fans and 3 x light relays. Some labelling that won't fall off so it can be figured out if a relay dies in 2years time would be relaly helpful I'd imagine.

    any ideas ?

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    I have used permanent marker on white heat shrink in the past.

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    What about an engraved label of some sort?
    A little like a name badge but smaller, often seen it switch boards ect..
    A quick google search found these, never used them but gives you an some ideas of what's available.

    https://myengraving.com.au/

    Laberton Pty Ltd - Samples of Engraved Labels; Electrical Switchboard Labels,Control Panel Labels, Traffolytes
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    How nice is that engraved labels stuff... Wow ... I'm thinking a lot cheaper White heat shrink and permenant marker would probably be permanent. Especially if you put clear heatshrink over the top.

    Maybe I'll just have to try permenant marker on the relays bases. You can't mark the relays themselves as they often get swapped around. Nothing more confusing that a relay labelled "high beam" running the radiator fans

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    I use white electrical tape, 'folded' around the wire, and then just snip off the end with scissors so it doesn't have sticky bits. I write on the tape with permanent marker [sharpie] while on the roll so its rigid, then peel. Works for wires, not for relays. Looks a bit messy, but works for me.

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    1. Dymo labeller (some can print on heat shrink)
    2. Paint pen marker / permanent marker
    3. Print out a fuse layout diagram and tape it inside the lid of the fuse box with the other diagrams


    Of got a dymo labeller with the industrial tapes which stick really well.
    An easy fix might be a half hour or so on the PC making a circuit map in word using autoshapes or excel. There is probably even a free online circuit diagram tool that can help along the way.

    Your relays will have similar terminals, so having to label each wire's function would be superfluous if you know what each relay controls (switching side, output side will tell you where the wire leads).
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    How is this for strange.... I just moved the 3 relays that I thought were switching for the LPG/Petrol......... and when I plugged one of the relays back in it started buzzing like crazy and high beam switched on



    Check this out .... I've never seen relays such as this before. They have two "87" normally open terminals... WTF ?? where is normally closed 87a

    anyway..... I found one of the relays is low beam ( dropping in and out due to the dodgy new switch), one is high beam, and the 3rd is also switched by high beam ... but has a normally closed wiring connection as well... very confusing. I'll have to trace out the wiring and find out what the 2nd high beam relay is for ( driving lights would work ... but why the normally closed relay connection ?).

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    gee's ... check this out .....



    I'm going to have to trace this out ... bizare or what! I know it works, so I should just leave it alone .... but wow ... why ?

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    Hi Shane, the two outside relays are standard headlight relays, and the middle one is a changeover relay.

    You will have to get them right when you put them back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi Shane, the two outside relays are standard headlight relays, and the middle one is a changeover relay.

    You will have to get them right when you put them back.
    Yeah, I've never seen a relay before that wasn't a change over ... I'm just trying to understand the bizare circuit. I'm going out now to trace the wiring and see how and why it's wired like that ( I want to wire low beam through the normally closed contact of the high beam circuit so I can power it from the parkers ... you see I have 3 indicator stalks here and they all randomly shut low beam off when changing for high beam to low beam!)

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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