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Thread: 2012 2.4L Defender catastrophic engine failure

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    Angry 2012 2.4L Defender catastrophic engine failure

    Any insights on what I should do - Bought this defender new from a landrover dealer in coffs harbour and had regular service's with them it has about 130,000KM on the clock. On a recent trip by my wife down the highway to sydney the car made a rattling noise started shaking she pulled to the side and was unwilling to drive any further after notice oil splatter and leakes. It ended up being towed to the nearest Landrover dealer in sydney.

    This is the initial diagnosis

    "It's always hard to say why these things happen as we never really know particularly when the vehicle is not maintained by us but unfortunately the internals of the motor have failed. Especially in cylinder one. See below:

    Found oil leaking from every seal on vehicle, car running very rough.
    Found number 1 injector leaking oil very badly from inside motor up past seals.
    Removed engine cap with engine running, engine compression coming straight up out of oil filler tube (backwards)
    Removed inlet manifold and carried out compression test on all cylinders.
    Numbers 2-4 have around 400PSI. Number 1 cylinder has 10PSI?.
    This will be caused by an internal mechanical failure of cylinder 1, piston rings and vales.

    I have a parts interpreter currently looking into the quote required to replace the motor and will follow up with this shortly.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news."


    Following this I have got them to test an oil sample and are awaiting results.
    How do I go about dealing with this as its probably a 15k exercise to replace the motor? and without an external reason for the failure insurance won't cover it?
    Any thoughts or advice appreciated.

    Thanks Rod

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    Get an INDEPENDENT specialist to inspect it. I have gone through similar and LR did NOT want to know or help.
    In our case a bore squirter was to blame and caused a piston to destroy itself and the bore. Yours sounds very like an injector failure and subsequent piston meltdown particularly if the other 3 cylinders are in good order.

    Jc
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    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    Sounds spot on JC - have seen a few failures posted showing the same damage.

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    Jeez I'm sorry for your bad luck.

    To anyone that knows, what would cause such a failure? Mildly terrified.

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    JC answered that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Get an INDEPENDENT specialist to inspect it. I have gone through similar and LR did NOT want to know or help.
    I'm not sure about that at this stage. This is an original owner car with (full?)dealership service history. At less than 5 years old & that sort of km, I would hope that LR would come to the party if the Sydney dealership approached them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodneyB View Post
    Any insights on what I should do - Bought this defender new from a landrover dealer in coffs harbour and had regular service's with them it has about 130,000KM on the clock. On a recent trip by my wife down the highway to sydney the car made a rattling noise started shaking she pulled to the side and was unwilling to drive any further after notice oil splatter and leakes. It ended up being towed to the nearest Landrover dealer in sydney.

    This is the initial diagnosis

    "It's always hard to say why these things happen as we never really know particularly when the vehicle is not maintained by us but unfortunately the internals of the motor have failed. Especially in cylinder one. See below:

    Found oil leaking from every seal on vehicle, car running very rough.
    Found number 1 injector leaking oil very badly from inside motor up past seals.
    Removed engine cap with engine running, engine compression coming straight up out of oil filler tube (backwards)
    Removed inlet manifold and carried out compression test on all cylinders.
    Numbers 2-4 have around 400PSI. Number 1 cylinder has 10PSI?.
    This will be caused by an internal mechanical failure of cylinder 1, piston rings and vales.

    I have a parts interpreter currently looking into the quote required to replace the motor and will follow up with this shortly.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news."


    Following this I have got them to test an oil sample and are awaiting results.
    How do I go about dealing with this as its probably a 15k exercise to replace the motor? and without an external reason for the failure insurance won't cover it?
    Any thoughts or advice appreciated.

    Thanks Rod
    I'll try to find the reference but there is a transit ford mechanicin VIC that will do a roll in drive out long block replacement for $7k. Been there recently. Feel your pain.
    MLD

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    If worst comes to worst. There's a member here that's doing Ranger 3.2 into the Defenders. That's a lovey set up..

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    A maintained engine failing at 130,000 km is not of merchantable quality. If JLR don't agree early to pay at least 60% walk away and start looking at legal options as they should pay 70%. It should last at least 400,000 if properly maintained. In all likelihood they will say it's out of warranty and pay us $15k to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    I'm not sure about that at this stage. This is an original owner car with (full?)dealership service history. At less than 5 years old & that sort of km, I would hope that LR would come to the party if the Sydney dealership approached them.
    Hoping that is the Case S. Our situation was different due to the vehicle being very rarely seen at the dealer and in fact the owner was careful NEVER to take it there...😮.

    A dealer history is very helpful in this instance , however a second opinion is still something that I would be keen to obtain if no joy with an explanation as to what and why this happened at such a low km and age.

    Jc
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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