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  1. 9th January 2017, 10:20 AM #1
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    Heavy Defender 130 suspension?

    Hey folks. I am travelling around Australia (currently in Sydney) and need an advice regarding suspension on a 130 Defender with a permanent load of ~600 kg (camper cabine). Total weight is ~2.9 / 3.0 t.

    You can see the vehicle here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2615316

    The original suspension seems a little bit too soft, especially when going offroad. Heavy wavering (not sure if that's a good word for it, left/right movement) is my biggest problem. The back is not hanging at all and the performance on the road is not bad so I am unsure whether I need different springs in the back or if other shock absorbers (front + back) might do the trick already?

    So what type of suspension are you using on your Landy with high permanent load? And where is a good place to get it in Sydney? Any tips highly appreciated since I will have to fix this in the upcoming days.

    Thanks and peace! Jonas
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  2. 9th January 2017, 10:35 AM #2
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    Have you got the standard HD 130 suspension (dual rear spring) still installed or have you or a prior owner previously removed the inner spring for a softer ride ?

    Whereabouts are you in the Sydney area ? (So we know who to send you to )
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    I still have the 130 HD springs in there (including inner spring in the back). The front shock absorbers are original, too. In the back I installed Monroe adventurers (gas).
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    Quote Originally Posted by intothefar View Post
    I still have the 130 HD springs in there (including inner spring in the back). The front shock absorbers are original, too. In the back I installed Monroe adventurers (gas).
    You haven't posted where you are but for LR suspensions Try KLR at Sth Windsor 4721 3675
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  5. 9th January 2017, 07:33 PM #5
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    I've had around a tonne on my tray for the last 15 years or so. My work gear. I've always been happy with the ride on the original suspension. The only things that have upset things have been worn bushes or soft tyres.
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  6. 9th January 2017, 10:40 PM #6
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    @87County: Thanks a lot, will definitely call KLR and check if they have any special setup for my case.
    @Don: Great, thanks for your reply. That's very interesting since I wasn't sure whether my suspension is crap in general or if it's just time for some new shocks and proper fitting As I said earlier, I do not think my springs in the back are too weak really. The solution for now will probably be to get new shocks all around (the ones I am currently driving on are definitely worn) and see how I go.
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  7. 10th January 2017, 10:21 AM #7
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    My 130 runs this suspension. Koni Raids with heavy duty, 50 mm raised Dobinson springs on all 4 corners, plus air bags on the rear springs.

    The ride is superb either unloaded, loaded and on all surfaces and terrains.
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    The height of your tray and load can affect handling too, but more on road.
    If there's any weight that you can store lower, it may help.
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    you haven't mentioned tyres, pressure, size , type.

    that can have a big influence in stability.
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  10. 10th January 2017, 01:11 PM #10
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    Tyres are: BFG All Terrain 265/75 R16
    Pressure on the road back/front: ~3.5/~3.2 bar (or ~50/46 psi) or more to save Diesel
    Pressure offroad varies from 1.5 bar (21 psi) in sand up to 3.0 bar (43 psi) depending on the conditions;

    The tray's height is ~ 1.55 m (from frame to top); Total height is 2.40 m; That, of course, has a massive influence on exactly the left/right movement (sway?) I would like to get rid of. So my idea was to find a suspension that compensates this crazy height (aka bad design) as good as possible.

    @86mud: Really looks beautiful but I doubt I can effort that right now
    @Beery: I tried to keep all the weight below an imaginary line (app. lower quarter of the box); So there shouldn't really be a big difference to having 6 people on benches in the back of a 110;

    As I really need a solution to be able to continue my journey I went for the Terrafirma Big Bore for now. Will mount them with the original springs since I am not completely convinced that they are too weak. The whole topic which suspension is the right one can probably not be answered objectively and I realized that I probably just have to find my way here
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