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  1. 27th May 2017, 10:53 PM #1
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    Same tyre, different load rating?

    I'm looking at buying a set of 255/85r16's for my 110, and have noticed that ebay and other online stores seem to have the KM2's and Toyo MT's listed at reasonable prices, but at lower load ratings than what is specified on the manufacturers website. For example there are KM2's in 119Q on ebay, yet BFG's website only mentions 123Q. And Toyo MT's are also on ebay in 119Q, yet Toyo's website states 123P. So whats the deal? Are they "genuine"? I'm a bit confused
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    They're probably genuine, just a lower spec.

    If you have a look in tyresales.com.au they also list both the 119Q and the 123Q
    123Q attracts a $50 premium, as you'd expect.
    If you check out BFG's US website, they list a 120Q(instead of 119Q) as well as the 123Q.

    It's probable that if the Au website only lists the 123Q model, with no option for the 119Q, then any 119Q versions are most likely parallel imports or something like that.

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    You will possibly find the lower spec one also rides a lot better too.
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    What they said, also in the US people choose the correct load rating for their vehicle in order to preserve the ride comfort rather than going for the heaviest LT tyre they can find like Australians seem to do which makes bringing in the lower load rated tyres for a smaller market unprofitable.
    You need to be really careful on sites like tyresales.com.au to ensure that you have the correct ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    What they said, also in the US people choose the correct load rating for their vehicle in order to preserve the ride comfort rather than going for the heaviest LT tyre they can find like Australians seem to do which makes bringing in the lower load rated tyres for a smaller market unprofitable.
    You need to be really careful on sites like tyresales.com.au to ensure that you have the correct ratings.

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    Yeah I've only ever bought tyres through tyre places like jax tyres or tyrepower and they've always been the "correct" (higher) load rating. Just interested though how much difference there would be going for the lower spec Toyo, as theres a place on ebay selling them for $250 each which is very tempting...
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    I was looking at Wrangler Duratracs in 265/75/16 for the 130 on Tyresales, the 112 load rated ones are $309 and the 123 Rated ones are $392 Unfortunately the 130 requires a load rating of 114 per the tyre placard. I know what I'd have bought if I had a 90.....
    In the end I got the Hankook MTs for $259 and am very happy with them, considerably more quiet than the factory MTRs, better ride and handling as well.

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    Resurrecting this thread rather than create a new one...

    Some of online the resellers list the Toyo Open Country MT in both a higher and lower load spec version:
    255/85R16 123P
    255/85R16 119P

    BFG MT TA KM2 is also seen online in two load specs
    255/85R16 123Q
    255/85R16 119Q

    My question is: Has anyone here used or experienced either of the above 4 tyres and can comment in relation to the differences of the two load specs?

    Cognizant that one gets what one pays for - Am looking for feedback on possible disappointments with the lower spec version. Too easily staked? Wears out too fast?

    Or is the higher spec version too heavy and hard for a Defender... overkill...
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    The higher specced tyres would be Light Truck (LT) construction, most suitable for load carrying and off road use. In the old parlance, 8-10 ply.
    The lighter construction is biased toward comfort and highway use. Formerly, 4-6 ply.
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    Too many plies....

    They are all LT construction. The only difference is the load rating (C or E most likely) which was originally linked to the number of plies (in the old days of bias-ply). A bit like P-metric tyres being available in standard and extra load (XL or Reinforced). The higher load rated ones have a heavier construction allowing them to be inflated to a higher maximum pressure and therefore carry more weight. C rated tyres are typically 60psi rated, where E rated are 80psi. Equally, as stated by others, the lower rated tyres ride better (less stiff) but us Aussies seem to be fixated on higher is better... The higher-rated ones will have a slightly heavier sidewall so *might* be slightly more resistant to sidewall punctures.
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