Thread: Death wobble riddle

Only ever done swivels by feel, never had a drama.
Oem panhard are fine, but you need a press!

Double post

Been using poly in the panhard for over 20 years and last for ages, same with Vern i do the pre-loads by feel and set them close to zero.

I'm not here to start a ****ing contest about bush's,the fact is the vehicle did not have the problem when it left the factory and thousands of live axle LR's have had 2'' lift's without issue and thousands more have been fitted with different offset rims and larger tyres. The violent left/right shake will occur with not enough swivel pre-load or worn/poor pan hard bush's with live axle vehicles,both have been worked on so that's were I'd start first. Pat

Had the same thing. The Panhard rubbers were stuffed. Got a HD Panhard, which fixed it for a bit. Then I found that the bolts mounting the Panhard end to the chassis were a trifle loose. Tightened them, fixed. Came back. Bolts lose again. New bolts and Nylocs. So, I'd check all bolts for correct tension before I went too far anywhere else.

Not saying it's your issue, but it could be.

Saved me having to faff around with preloads. Although that day will come.

Thanks for the comments,

We had the drag link and tie rod off last night and the swivels still had some resistance, so I'm confident the preload is still ok. I'm a bit concerned about loading the swivels up any higher than standard after the previous set lasted less than a year. They were installed as per the manual, but ****part don't seam to like hard facing the pins properly. The replacement pins were most certainly genuine and the Britpart ones were thrown in the general direction of the distributor.

The other mechanic at work had a look-see today and he couldn't find a thing.


I've also been running a set of 31" road tires this week to eliminate the 255/85 BFGs that I usually run but the problem is still there. I've learnt 2 things from this.

1. My BFGs are really well balanced.
2. 31" tires on a puma makes it go like stink and returns amazing fuel economy (8-8.5L/100km)


I have also double checked the wheel alignment this morning and it was 1mm toe out. I have set it to 4mm toe out to see what happens and on a short run it seamed 100 times better than before. I wouldn't have expected such a massive difference by doing this.

I'm off racing this weekend so the work ute is on tow car duties and the Defender is being left in the naughty corner. Hopefully we'll have a result next week. Wish us luck!

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Try some "Toe In" instead of Toe Out, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by Tank

Try some "Toe In" instead of Toe Out, Regards Frank.

From memory 1 to 2 mm toe in