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    I'm staring to think that it could be an intermittent electrical issue. I cleaned the MAF sensor (again) and the connector as well. I also cleared the ECU fault and then drove it like I stole it for about 40 minutes. The engine flawlessly revved up to 3000rpm and didn't miss a beat and most importantly, the ECU didn't log any fault. I'll be off across the Blue Mountains later this week and see how I go at altitude.

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    If you have nanocom, insertb SD card in it and record inputs fuelling from a journey and if the symptom occurs it will be visible on that or if all the sensor readings are OK it means it's fuel supply issue cos that's not covered by diagnostic
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    I played with the Nanocom and was able to log data to a SD card. I'd be interested in what the experts think. It looks like a MAF problem to me as the airflow drops to 0 on my uphill runs at high rpm.

    From what I can see, I don't have an overboost issue.

    Also, there is absolutely no oil in the wiring loom (checked at the engine and at the ECU end).

    Excel spreadsheet contains some of the data.

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    Can be two things, the MAF is reading higher than the reality is or there's a slight boost leak between the turbo and inlet.... do you have any kind of tuning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Can be two things, the MAF is reading higher than the reality is or there's a slight boost leak between the turbo and inlet.... do you have any kind of tuning?
    VGT from BAS, Alisport intercooler, ECU re-remapped by DPL. The MAF is non standard to suit the setup; it is part of the BAS kit as I understand. This setup has not been changed off lately. One of my turbo hoses cracked about two months ago. So, I replaced both with silicone hoses. I had to change the clamps to hd turbo clamps to keep them from slipping. I'll check again.

    And btw: I had another (3,7) Air Flow Circuit Logged High error logged.

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    that air flow high is normal cos that's what happens in the dala log too.... are you sure you are not speaking about the MAP sensor when you say "The MAF is non standard to suit the setup;"? cos that's what they used to do but beside that you need a AFR modification in the fuel map as the MAF to go up to 800+ without cutting out... according to that log when the MAF cuts out(above 650) the MAP is only 205 and that means 1.1 bar boost which is low for that high suction....it seems that your vehicle is supertuned bot not completely or as i said the MAF sensor reads higher than normal or there's a boost leak...unplug the MAF and drive it so untill you fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    that air flow high is normal cos that's what happens in the dala log too.... are you sure you are not speaking about the MAP sensor when you say "The MAF is non standard to suit the setup;"? cos that's what they used to do but beside that you need a AFR modification in the fuel map as the MAF to go up to 800+ without cutting out... according to that log when the MAF cuts out(above 650) the MAP is only 205 and that means 1.1 bar boost which is low for that high suction....it seems that your vehicle is supertuned bot not completely or as i said the MAF sensor reads higher than normal or there's a boost leak...unplug the MAF and drive it so untill you fix it
    Don't know about the MAP, but here is my setup:


    - BAS Td5 VGT hybrid and offroad turbo
    - Allisport intercooler
    - Td5 turbo boost box (alive??)
    - modified MAF (that's what my invoice said when I got it replaced) ​
    TD5 Upgraded Air Flow Meter | PERFORMANCE | Davis Performance


    - cleaned out airbox to improve airflow
    - 3 inch exhaust

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbe View Post
    - Td5 turbo boost box (alive??)
    - modified MAF (that's what my invoice said when I got it replaced) ​
    TD5 Upgraded Air Flow Meter | PERFORMANCE | Davis Performance
    as long as that highlighted thing is present i have nothing more to say just that FROM MY POINT OF VIEW it's a SHAME and as long as the MAF was ''uprated'' it should not have cut out at 680 but stay fit up to 850.... i hope that @Offtrack will see this to explain better
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Thanks for all the responses.
    I'll try baby steps now:

    - check turbo hoses again and make sure they are 100% properly clamped

    - another 300km round trip to get to 1000m altitude and do the following tests:

    try to log data on nanocom

    • one altitude run with problem present
    • one altitude run without AAP connected
    • one altitude run with pre-airbox intake plumbing removed
    • clean AAP at altitude and try again


    Happy to look into more suggestions

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbe View Post
    try to log data on nanocom

    • one altitude run with problem present
    • one altitude run without AAP connected
    • one altitude run with pre-airbox intake plumbing removed
    • clean AAP at altitude and try again

    Happy to look into more suggestions
    why would you save a data log with AAP unplugged? just to see the default mode with reduced boost? ... your problem according to the data log is that the ECU cuts fuelling due to high MAF input which is normal as long as the sucction is too high due to a sh*t tuning...cos IMO any tuning which involves a boost box to alter the MAP reading is **** while stating that the MAF is "uprated" but it reads up to 680 max and cuts out is a lie IMO.
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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