Thread: Help with parts list for D2 2" Spring lift.

Hi mick

1 I used extended travel bilstein shocks sorry do not know part numbers
I used to have adjustable rancho's they are no good for disco's

2 you should not need to modify sway bar mounts for a 2" lift did not do
anything to mine

3 did not do anything for the front,the rear will need changing if you use the longer travel shocks

4 yes you are correct, with the bilsteins I did not have to lower the bump stops check the min length of the shock and the centers of the mounts when the car was lowered with out springs mounted allow a bit less for compression of bump stop rubbers.

5 I think this depends on the springs used the ones I got from les richmond in melborne even with suspension fully extended still had to be
slightly compressed to get them in.the lovells I took out had plenty of room to rattle around with suspension fully extended.

6 the front may need spacing down again this depends on the length of the shocks lift the front of the car and allow the suspension to fully hang down and check the clearance.I did not have to change mine came close
but did not touch.

talk to andrew at les richmond in melbourne he can help and does know his stuff and may be cheaper

good luck

Timely post Mick
My shocks are stuffed so looking to do a 2" lift and also rear polyairs.
I realise this has been covered before guys,looking forward to reading as mutch input as possible,Id like to get it right first time.
Andrew

Originally posted by stevo
you should not need to modify sway bar mounts for a 2" lift did not do anything to mine

Considered this mod as I am aiming to put longer travel shocks on and therefore the mounts on the axle housing may get twsited as they reach full drop?? Not 100% sure but as I want a true 2" lift and may use 2.5" or 3" springs, surely i would need to consider moving the axle mounts up say 2" to accomodate the amount of down travel i'm after with the longer shocks and spring??

I currently have a 2" OME spring lift with matching shocks but by changing the set up, I am aiming to soften up the ride and gain more down travel at the same time. With my current set up, I did not have to change anything at all, simply fitted the springs and shocks and away I went.

Originally posted by LandyAndy
Timely post Mick
My shocks are stuffed so looking to do a 2" lift and also rear polyairs.
I realise this has been covered before guys,looking forward to reading as mutch input as possible,Id like to get it right first time.
Andrew

As i'm getting rid of my set up through this process LandyAndy, maybe you want to buy my kit - PM me for more info and specs if you are keen.

Appreciate all the feedback so far, very useful, Mick

the bilsteins I fitted allowed more down ward travel,you can also get them
the same as the disco ones,when I first fitted the springs the front was raised 70 mm the back I fitted a 2" spacer under the airbag then changed the settings in the computer to keep the car level.
I have noticed nothing hitting or bending and I did a trip through the vic high country over the xmas break plenty of times when axles where fully articlated or fully extended when I had to winch myself over a tree across
track.

If you went for a 4" lift then yes you would have to do something with the mounts,I have ace fitted to mine do not know if axle mounts are different
between ace/non ace vehicles.

Slight correction, by sway bar I think I mean anti roll bar or watts link?? As you can see, I'm not a mechanic so more than ever need some input here incase I miss something.
From the Rave CD, it looks like it the anti roll bar links I am talking about adjusting. Was thinking I could make a plate to raise the mounting points on the axle housing or even cut the link bars going to the axles housing and re-weld a piece of bar back in to give me the length I need?

Jees, this is getting complicated but I want to make sure I get this right before I spend $. All the work I have discussed doing will be done by a qualified mechanic, don't worry about that, I simply want to know what it is I have to do so I understand what is going on underneath my beast.

Remember its down travel I'm primarily after more than anything - hence longer shocks and springs - but am trying to gain the correct lift at the same time if I can.

Thanks again for all the input so far, Mick

Mick, you'll need to go more than 180lb if you have a bar and winch, 180lb is close to standard, i have 230lb on mine and i reckon 210lb minimum, talking to the guys on the d2au forum.

My setup is the same as Slunnies 4" lift and i'm using the Bilsteins long travel in the rear and Rancho 5000 rear GU/GQ spec shocks in the front.

Bilstein are the only shock maker where you don't have to modify the shocks to suit a over 2" lift i went with the Ranchos because they were cheaper as i didn't have the budget at the time, i allready had the rear bilsteins fitted when i did my first lift, so if going with a genuine 2" lift the Bilsteins are the go, i had to get made up for the front shock the cross pin and top bushes to suit the larger hole the GQ/GU shock has, so i could put these shocks on.

Bilsteins are bloody expensive though, but for 2" to a 4" lift the open and closed length is good with 393mm closed and 689mm open.

The other thing you have to look at is the crossmember under the front drive shaft, to make sure it doesn't hit cause with an over 2" lift it will touch the prop shaft at full articulation.

With ACE thats another story, Slunnie is your man for lifting an ACE equiped D2.

Baz.

Originally posted by Redback
Mick, you'll need to go more than 180lb if you have a bar and winch, 180lb is close to standard, i have 230lb on mine and i reckon 210lb minimum, talking to the guys on the d2au forum.

<span style="color:darkred">Hi Redback, I have 180lbs OME (part no 777) in the front at the moment matched with OME shocks (part no N107) but dont have a winch (and wont be getting one for a while). I also have ace but have found the front has sagged slightly. I'm not sure if it is the ACE that gives me the firm ride but maybe around 210lb is the go and may avoid sagging down the track?</span>

Originally posted by Redback
My setup is the same as Slunnies 4" lift and i'm using the Bilsteins long travel in the rear and Rancho 5000 rear GU/GQ spec shocks in the front.

<span style="color:darkred">If I wanted a true 2-2.5" lift (therefore perhaps a 3" lift spring), would the Bilstien long travel shocks work with my set up and do you have part no.s etc?</span>

Originally posted by Redback
The other thing you have to look at is the crossmember under the front drive shaft, to make sure it doesn't hit cause with an over 2" lift it will touch the prop shaft at full articulation.

<span style="color:darkred">Yeah, I was going to look at this also as it is the down travel I am after. Options as I see it are using spacer plates on the cross member mounts (but then this lowers this point of the car) Other option maybe to cut and plate the bar or perhaps a combination of both - what have you done and have you had to do anything else to your drive shafts etc because of the angles?</span>

Originally posted by Redback
With ACE thats another story, Slunnie is your man for lifting an ACE equiped D2.

<span style="color:darkred">I think even going for the true 2-2.5" lift (around 3" spring lift) the ACE is unaffected, but I could be wrong.</span>

<span style="color:darkred">Thanks for the input Redback, I'm getting closer to understanding what it is I am going to end up doing.....wish it was just a case of "Ah, you are after a 2.5" true lift, well you will neeed this, this this and will need to change this and this.....here is a kit with everything you need"

Aye, Mick</span>

Mick, I think I have talked to you before about this but I can't remember.

Since you have ACE you can go pretty light on the front springs without anyproblems and it will give you much better flex. Both myself and David Danks are running 150lb springs on the front but these were custom made so that they still gave a 2" lift. he standard springs on the TD5 are just under 150lb and I think we got the new ones made 3.5" longer than standard which ended up perfect with bar and winch.

We had our springs made by Browns Springs in Melbourne, but in QLD you may be able to get Dobinsons to make you a custom set or look up spring makers in Yellow pages. I found that getting a custom set made was cheaper than buying off the shelf.

Rear I am not so sure about as we both have air but it will all depend on whether you still want to load it up for trips.

For the shock I am using Tough Dogs extended 41mm shocks. These have been great and give me heaps more flex than others that I have tried but they are still the limiting factor. If you go any longer then you will need to modify the shock mounts or increase the bumpstops otherwise the shock will bottom out on compression.

I don't like the Bilsteins as I reckon they are way too hard. They are probably very good for touring but I have them on my Rangie and will be getting rid of them as soon as I can afford new ones.

No need to worry about anti roll bar if you keep the lift under about 2.5". Once you go over that then you do need to do some fairly expensive mods to the ACE. Slunnie is the best one to speak to about that. You might want to visit the D2au yahoo forum.