Td5 a little down on power and lumpy idle from start

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Originally Posted by harro

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You are having a rough time of it Mark, hopefully the light at the end of the tunnel is nigh��
More than likely an unsupervised apprentice who has learnt a lesson (at your expense).

Sounds like you are nearly there mate, time for some ‘reliable’ 4x4 ing��

Cheers,
Paul

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Here's hoping Paul. When they put it together after the head replacement they managed to compromise one or two O-rings which they have now replaced as well as the oil and filters. This leaves me a bit paranoid of course. For the next little while I'll be doing daily blot tests. On the bright side, it does start a LOT better from cold and warm and it pulls up my favourite test hill OK. Disconnecting the MAF now makes a fair bit of difference too. Putting the old MAF in also makes a difference and gives constant EGR valve stuck and EGR valve stuck closed faults. New MAF and no faults.[bigsmile1]

Here's hoping that it's all good and my paranoia is misplaced.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Or a tech who only started since 2004 and hasn’t seen a unitary injector. [emoji6]

It all changes so fast nowadays. Within a few years the old stuff isn’t even seen in a *dealer* workshop.

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While that's a distinct possibility it's no excuse for mashing O-rings while fitting them. My guess is that they tried to rush the job and made a fundamental blunder which pressure testing after assembly would have revealed.

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Originally Posted by rick130

Are VW still using unit injectors or have they gone cheap Bosch common rail too?

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Dunno. I still prefer the injector pump arrangement that my old Series III diesel had. Dead simple and robust. The injectors may not have lasted as long as the Td5 injectors do but they were a whole lot cheaper.[bigsmile1]

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Originally Posted by Markf

Well I got it back from the stealers today. They had made a has out of installing the injectors and had destroyed 3 o-rings.

While I was waiting I asked the service manager why it was taking so long. Apparently the person (for want of a better word) who was doing the work "didn't know that you had to re-adjust the injector clearance after taking the rocker shaft out" :bat::bat::bat::bat:

You can bet that I'll be keeping a very close eye on the oil level. All of the questions I posed as per my post earlier were met with meaningless platitudes.

A change of mechanic is warranted methinks.

Oh well I suppose I can bathe in the knowledge that my car has been worked on by Neanderthal Man and how many can boast of that.

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IMHO......
*People seem to be of the belief that a dealer should know a particular model of Land Rover.... because... they are a dealer...
*Dealerships typically are not the best payers around for "just" a workshop floor mechanic, so pay bananas/peanuts ..... and often have a high turn over of staff (personal opinion).
*When looking for "just a mechanic" they may not necessarily advertise for a "Land Rover experienced" mechanic.
*You may well find most independent Land Rover repairers will have staff that have been their for quite a long time as its hard to find a good mechanic there for ya want to keep them. A known local indy Land Rover repairer here in Perth (Rovertech) apart from the owner, Kevin (who has been doing Land Rovers for a lifetime) has mechs that have been there for like 8 - 10 years. That sort of experience is worth every dollar it costs an owner.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

IMHO......
*People seem to be of the belief that a dealer should know a particular model of Land Rover.... because... they are a dealer...
*Dealerships typically are not the best payers around for "just" a workshop floor mechanic, so pay bananas/peanuts ..... and often have a high turn over of staff (personal opinion).
*When looking for "just a mechanic" they may not necessarily advertise for a "Land Rover experienced" mechanic.
*You may well find most independent Land Rover repairers will have staff that have been their for quite a long time as its hard to find a good mechanic there for ya want to keep them. A known local indy Land Rover repairer here in Perth (Rovertech) apart from the owner, Kevin (who has been doing Land Rovers for a lifetime) has mechs that have been there for like 8 - 10 years. That sort of experience is worth every dollar it costs an owner.

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Really good points Daz.
We have 3, yes 3 independent LR specialists here in Cairns, and while they all have their strengths and weaknesses depending on year and model they are ALL preferred over the local dealer.
Says something imo...........


Paul

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Originally Posted by sierrafery

In the case i've seen myself the green genuine o-rings out of a LR badged pack were thinner than the old ones measured with micrometer and the mechanic said the injectors went back too easy, my friend bought viton o-rings from a local store based on the dimensions of the old ones then all was good.... after that a guy from landyzone reported the same issue

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Does that suggest LR is doing a Britpart, and sourcing them from whoever has them??? With similar outcomes???

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

These sort of stuff ups would be laughable if it wasnt costing owners so much.

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Not just that. It leads to the perpetuation of the LandCruiser good, LandRover bad myth. And drives more decent mechanics away, as the young ones tend to believe the horror stories and won't touch a LR.

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Originally Posted by Markf

I apologise for this drifting away from "Technical Chatter" and into workshop competency.

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Don't. Well, that's my opinion anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Or a tech who only started since 2004 and hasn’t seen a unitary injector. [emoji6]

It all changes so fast nowadays. Within a few years the old stuff isn’t even seen in a *dealer* workshop.

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Agree. Most mechs in a Stealership have done training only on the cars that are still under warranty. It didn't matter 20 years ago, but it matters now. Even the guys that have moved up from spannering to the office as "advisors" won't remember TD5s. LR have moved too upmarket for that.

If possible, find a bloke who used to be at a Stealership when you car was newish and has gone out on his own ( but, be careful even then. Ask me hoe I know:bat:?. Or, better still, learn to do it yourself... Now, I know that isn't possible for everyone, for various reasons, but by golly it helps if you are ever stuck somewhere.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

IMHO......
*People seem to be of the belief that a dealer should know a particular model of Land Rover.... because... they are a dealer...
*Dealerships typically are not the best payers around for "just" a workshop floor mechanic, so pay bananas/peanuts ..... and often have a high turn over of staff (personal opinion).
*When looking for "just a mechanic" they may not necessarily advertise for a "Land Rover experienced" mechanic.
*You may well find most independent Land Rover repairers will have staff that have been their for quite a long time as its hard to find a good mechanic there for ya want to keep them. A known local indy Land Rover repairer here in Perth (Rovertech) apart from the owner, Kevin (who has been doing Land Rovers for a lifetime) has mechs that have been there for like 8 - 10 years. That sort of experience is worth every dollar it costs an owner.

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Couldn't agree more. Well put, Daz.