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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    For the cost of one of these lithium jump starters you can get a pretty decent 120w solar blanket that will charge a flat battery up enough to start the engine in 15-30 min depending on how much you are willing to spend on the blanket, They are also bloody usefull when camping as well.
    Most of the blankets can fold away smaller than a charge pack in its case and there is little difference in weight as well.
    I have bought a few of these starter packs over the years and all of them have struggled to start a V8 (Diesel or petrol) even when brand new and fully charged, After about 12-18 months the chargers are knackered but still can proove usefull to charge a phone or a camera.
    I have a solar blanket but they don’t work at night or very well on heavily overcast days. Even if sunny you might not have the time to use the solar blanket if you need to say, catch a ferry at a particular time. I used my lithium jump starter this morning. My intermittent battery drain has raised it’s ugly head again. Vehicle would barely turn over. Out with the jump starter. Back in business. Getting on to 2 years old.
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    Love my lithium jump starter.

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    I used mine once on a 3.2 ltr bt50. it just started it so I was happy,I put it away under the front seat(in its plastic case) and when I went to use it a couple of months later it had swollen up and was useless. I am lucky it did not explode.
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    That sounds a bit like the mysterious & suspected cause of some unexplained aircraft fires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmy View Post
    I used mine once on a 3.2 ltr bt50. it just started it so I was happy,I put it away under the front seat(in its plastic case) and when I went to use it a couple of months later it had swollen up and was useless. I am lucky it did not explode.
    John
    Might have been a good idea to charge it before putting it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    That sounds a bit like the mysterious & suspected cause of some unexplained aircraft fires.
    Mine lives in the driver’s door pocket. Days up to 45C parked in the sun. I may be lucky but is could be a quality issue. Mine costs between $250-$300.
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    This is an interesting report on how to maximise the life of lithium - ion batteries. It seems to require quite a different approach than for lead acid batteries.
    I've been trying to get my head around this to figure out how to prolong the life of my mobile phone's battery, which is already 3 years old. I also have a Projecta lithium jump starter, which is great.
    Some tips I've worked out are:

    Don't deep discharge the battery as that shortens battery life.
    Aiming for about a 70-80 % discharge down to about 30% seems to prolong battery life.
    More frequent charging is better than occasional charging.
    Don't leave the battery on a charger for more than about 12 hours as that can cause the battery to overheat (this 12 hour figure came from the instructions for my phone).
    Hope that helps.


    https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/...ased_batteries

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    Instead of spending $200/$300 on a jump starter wouldn't it be more prudent to spend that money on a decent battery and ensuring that the charging system is working up to spec??, This would eliminate the need for the jump starter in the first place

    I bought the ones that I have tried primarily to use on my boat as I spend quite a lot of time at sea in remote areas that it is a rarity to see another vessel and in many areas I go the VHF/27Meg reception is very patchy or non existent.
    I tested the units by having them fully charged and stowed away for a couple of months then I try and start the engine 70HP or 115HP 4 strokes with a half flat battery fitted (wont spin the motor on its own) and I found that 9 times out of 10 they did the trick.
    This "Fine" if you don't rely on these chargers as your primary "Back Up" But that 1 in 10 failure rate can get you killed in a boat or even if you are stuck in the middle of nowhere with your 4WD with No help available.

    Battery "Maintenance"( dual batteries and an isolator switch fitted is a MUST on boats) and maintaining the charging system is MY Primary defence against flat batteries on my boats AND my 4WD's.
    As I always carry at least 1 solar panel either on the boat or in the 4wd I use these as my secondary line of defence I case I do something completely stupid by leaving something on that flattens a battery or even both of them overnight.
    Even on an overcast and rainy day a decent solar panel WILL put enough charge into a battery to get you out of trouble

    In the City or suburbia these starter packs may be useful But NEVER rely on them 100% in the unhappy event of getting a flat battery Especially in a remote area.
    Personally I can't be bothered carrying one of these anymore and they have been delegated to a shelf in the shed with all the other things I have bought that I though were a Good idea at the time and have been disappointed at their usefulness and are slowly gathering dust.
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    I certainly agree with you that maintaining the charging system is the top priority, but I do carry a Projecta lithium pack in the drawer in the Defender as it doesn't take up much space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Instead of spending $200/$300 on a jump starter wouldn't it be more prudent to spend that money on a decent battery and ensuring that the charging system is working up to spec??, This would eliminate the need for the jump starter in the first place
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    Agree, to date I haven’t been tempted to buy one.....I don’t even carry jumper leads.

    I replace batteries well before there due, i choose a battery Isolator that isolates the starter from the AUX as soon as you turn off the engine....in saying that I have run permanent solar since way back before it become popular.

    Over the last 30 day the lowest my Aux has recorded is 12.45v and that’s running a fridge 24/7 complete with a black roof closed up on very hot days. Easy to jump option without cables or jump start packs.

    Suppose with all these modern cars packed with computers and choosing use the starter to run accessories one might be tempted to have back up.

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