Don't buy a Land Rover in 2020 (& here's why)

**trout1105** · 22nd January 2020, 03:47 PM

But seriously why would you buy a Land Rover as your primary transport?

Why Not, My D2a has been my #1 drive for the last 4 years because quite simply I Enjoy driving it.

**Tombie** · 22nd January 2020, 05:06 PM

All my Land Rovers have been my primary daily drive (excluding Motorcycles and work vehicles).

In our household there isn’t a choice of a non-Landy. All of them have been inherently reliable, more so than several of the alternative vehicles we once owned.

It’s all a matter of looking after them, and that applies to all vehicles.

**workingonit** · 22nd January 2020, 05:24 PM

D1/D2 are daily drives for me and adult kids.

After the wife's 'real' daily drive, a Toyota Corolla, broke down she took to driving a Disco for a while. She's bought another 2nd hand Corolla but says the command position is no where as good as the Disco. The birds routinely crap all over the 'new' Corolla - don't get light silver colour.

Funny thing, the mechanic who looked after her original Corolla found out that I was thinking of phasing out her Corolla for a Disco. The mechanic remarked why would you swap the worlds most reliable car (Corolla) for the worlds most unreliable (D1)...a year later after that remark RIP the Corolla.

**rar110** · 23rd January 2020, 07:33 AM

John Cadogen is an entertainer promoting his own product. He’s a little over animated in that episode. But I get one of his points, that JLR shouldn’t unconditionally market that their product only needs an oil change every 2 years or 34,000km when foreseeably most of the use will be urban resulting in frequent DPF burns and oil dilution.

**PhilipA** · 23rd January 2020, 07:44 AM

Tis whole issue stems from the method that LR uses to regenerate the DPF.

I saw an excellent YouTube video some time ago which explained the different methods.
Briefly GM has patented a method using an extra injector on the DPF to regenerate it.

This of course completely sidesteps the oil dilution problem. I also noted on another video that the GM truck DPFs as used in school buses etc are able to be dismantled and cleaned.

I wondered at the time why LR is using what I think is a far inferior method and can only guess that they would have to pay royalties, or just that the engineers are pig headed.

regards PhilipA

**goingbush** · 23rd January 2020, 08:28 AM

I don't need John Cadogan to tell me not to buy a new LandRover in 2020.

**Red90** · 24th January 2020, 04:24 AM

If you do not believe the video, read this thread: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS - Discovery Sport Forums

That is the worst oil analysis by a huge margin, I have ever seen. I would not touch one of these engines.

**ozscott** · 27th January 2020, 06:55 PM

Codogan is hitting an issue hard here. Per normal. Surely LR could sort this with a software update. Is it an issue?

Google John Cadogan Don't buy a Land Rover in 2020. You will readily find his video about alleged DPF issues. As per normal he swears a lot and it isn't fit for young children or adults sensitive to such words and phrases.

Cheers