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hmmm, sounds like the Td5 electrickery will be a problem. So ill talk to him some more about the tdi engine instead. As far as a gas conversion goes, hes had a 78 rangie gas converted before, and although it was a beast of a machine, it was problematic tuning wise, and the fuel range wasnt very good. So he prefers diesel. Thanks for the replies, ill see what he says.
Cheers,
Les Richmond Automotive looks to have done one !!
www.lrautomotive.com.au/259.html
A HS2.8 Turbo diesel will give better economy & equal power to a TD5 (from my reading- not personal experience). The benefits of this motor are that there are no electonics to wire up. A complete motor including, alternator, starter etc is about $10K Brand New.
Call Anthony on (03) 9729 9943, he's done several conversions, has a new one in his shed for sale and at the least can send you a brochure on the HS2.8.
Don't know how "vintage" you want to go but the early RR (early 80's) had the isuzu 4cyl diesel (English option) and 4 sp box ie like mil L/R 110, motors, g/box's still around (light isuzu truck motor) easy to rebuild could even get the 4BD1T (turbo) once again vintage set up but fairly bullet prof only the input in g/box let the whole system down but with the proper mod will over come that.
Cheers;) ;)
Hi Guys
yes as someone said (thanks)
I'm (well we're, Romsey LR and myself) are doing one now :D
we're fitting a HS2.8 (well I am the importer :p ) to my wife's 96 P38 RR
As it's the first one it's turned out to be more "involved" than I thought and wife's a bit ****ty about driving the Ute for the last month while her car sits in bits (it's OK it'll teach her to appreciate her car more ;) ) and she doesn't know yet I recon it'll be at least another month,:wasntme: Then I'll have to drive it for a while to bug check it ;)
As we go we are making up kit details and getting proper machining of adaptors mounts ect done (to CNC tolerances) so next conversions should be easy.
engine fitting is almost sorted (just waiting for some machined bits) then we come to the fun of playing with the computers
For this e who were following yes we were going the use disco Tdi trans bellhousing ect but parts supply was a bit dodgy to get (I did get them all but a bit painful & more $$) so we were worried about future conversions, so we have had a change of heart and are now using all the original P38 trans bellhousing ect with machined adaptor plates, so future conversions will be easy with not trawling around looking for bits
Personally I think the P38 HSE is an awesome car, $110+ k new 10 years ago and avail for under $20k now :eek:
wife's had hers for 2 yrs and done 80k trouble free only thing is being V8 a bit heavy on juice (I'm sure there are a few rover V8's on here who know)
and I know when the 4'6 gets up in ks they have engine liner "issues"
so why not take out the V8 before it dies, sell it to someone who has a dead one (I got $4k for mine :) ) and fit a brand new diesel (all brand new fan-flywheel) good fuel economy and reliable for 300,000 kms :D
I'll let you know when it's all done and how it goes
Thanks
jase
More info, GREAT :D
I will pass this onto my bro, and if he needs to he or I will PM Jase and/or Michael2. I think he is wanting someone to do the full conversion for him, or at least get a price on parts and labour. But I will pass this info on to him and see what he says.
Thanks,
I have seen two nineties RR's with GM 6.2 litre V8 diesels installed. One had a late Toyota 5 speed transmission and I don't know what the second one had. There are commercial modification shops doing this work but I would think the cost prohibitive if all you are trying to do is reduce the fuel bill. If you can buy a second-hand RR cheaply then you can buy a lot of petrol for the price of a major conversion like this. If you buy a used engine and do the work yourself, then what about an Isuzu 4BD1t ( turbocharged and intercooled? Bullet proof and economical. These were used in trucks by the thousand and also in marine and industrial applications. Should be able to get one from a truck wrecker or a Jap engine importer, then acquire a written-off County Isuzu for donor purposes, all the litle bracketry and electrical and other bits. Both the above RR's were professional conversions and looked it. Very tidily done. I bet the owners paid lots of Oxfords though. Didn't record the conversion shops names from the modificatiion plate. You should find some in the various 4wd hobby magazines.Quote:
Originally Posted by stooge
Although I drive a tdi disco now, my previous ride was a 1984 Rangie which intially had the 3.5 petrol and three speed torque flight auto. I converted it to a 6.2 litre chev diesel which was easy to do as the engine mounts were from Marks Adapters (Melb) and bolted straight in. The torque converter needed 1" spacers to allow for the 1" spacer adapter plate for the gearbox. Power in every gear and upto 25 MPG. I later changed the gearbox to a turbo 700 4 speed which bolted up directly to the engine and changed the transfer case to a disco unit with 1.222:1. This was much better for towing as the gearbox 1st ratio dropped to 3.08 to 1 and highway cruising was great with the overdrive. Never needed low range for anything but then I wasn't rock crawling. Sounded great with a 3" mandrel bent. My ten cents worth. P.S I still have the Chev to Torque flight adapter plate if anyone is interrested. I don't know if the engine bay is the same size as the 'classic's' but I can't see this conversion being too hard. But I would suggest doing it yourself as the company's doing this charge like a wounded bull.
Dont know where you got that from, no rangie has ever had an isuzu diesel fitted you must mean the mid 80's counties and the uk didnt get them. In 88 lr fitted a horrible italian VM diesel into rangies but they werent popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by weiry
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanrangie
It appears to be popular to fit the Isuzu 4JB1T diesel in the UK, with several companies making adaptor kits and doing the engine swap.
The 4JB1T is a good 2.8 litre direct injection turbo diesel engine. Was fitted to Jackaroos and some other Isuzus here. Also some Jap engine places import them from Japan.
Personally I would prefer the 4JB1T over a 300Tdi. Avoid the 3.0 litre Isuzu though! They would be easier to fit than a 4BD1.