Thread: Separating a Range Rover Gearbox from a V8 Motor - traps for new players.

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Then if they are not coming apart easily how can this be remedied?

Look for the bolt(s) you've missed...

Remove the 4 bolts for the torque converter, this will keep the converter with the gearbox when they are separated, which means that.

1: you wont drop Transmission oil over your shop floor and boots, pants etc.

2: the torque converter bush and seal won't be damaged if the motor comes out on a bit of an angle.

The numbers on the box are on the LHS beside the selector, the bottom number is the model number, which is the one you want when ordering parts.

Originally Posted by discorevy

Remove the 4 bolts for the torque converter, this will keep the converter with the gearbox when they are separated, which means that.

1: you wont drop Transmission oil over your shop floor and boots, pants etc.

2: the torque converter bush and seal won't be damaged if the motor comes out on a bit of an angle.

The numbers on the box are on the LHS beside the selector, the bottom number is the model number, which is the one you want when ordering parts.

Hello Discorevy,

While I appreciated Tins levity, your insight was exactly what I was after. So thank you very much Discorevy. It was a very opportune post to read as well. I am about to put on some steel capped boots and lower said engine and gearbox onto the back of my trailer. I am going to have the gearbox extended off the back of the trailer while the engine is strapped down. Then hook the mobile crane onto the gearbox to support its weight while I get full access to the gearbox bolts. This is my first foray into working on a Land Rover V8 - Fingers crossed!

Kind regards
Lionel

Hello All,

One thing I did notice about my 3.9 Litre V8 is its distinct lack of lifting points. Is the 3.9 Litre V8 one of those designs where the intake manifolds are taken off and then a special lifting bracket is bolted into the manifold bolt holes? Or did a previous owner not like the look of the previously fitted lifting points and they took them off? When I picked the engine up the bloke had it sitting in the bucket of a rather large front end loader.

My prior experience with the Series motors is that the lifting points on the 2.25 litre petrol and diesel Land Rover motors are obvious to see. So too is the 2.6 litre six cylinder petrol motor. I looked in similar places on the V8 and there is nada lifting points. I wrapped a short lifting sling around the front of the crankshaft a couple of times and put a shackle through it. There were two mounting holes at the back of the gearbox and I put two shackles so I could hook up a chain to them. The chain then hooked up to the front lifting sling. It is going to be interesting to hook up and lift the engine by itself once the gearbox is removed. Hooking up a chain around some of the exhaust manifold pipes does not really impress me that much. However, it seems like the only option that is currently available to me. There must be a better designed way to lift the motor!

No, I am not going to pressure clean the motor until I have it running and it can get nice and hot after the motor has been cleaned.

Kind regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello All,

One thing I did notice about my 3.9 Litre V8 is its distinct lack of lifting points. Is the 3.9 Litre V8 one of those designs where the intake manifolds are taken off and then a special lifting bracket is bolted into the manifold bolt holes? Or did a previous owner not like the look of the previously fitted lifting points and they took them off? When I picked the engine up the bloke had it sitting in the bucket of a rather large front end loader.

My prior experience with the Series motors is that the lifting points on the 2.25 litre petrol and diesel Land Rover motors are obvious to see. So too is the 2.6 litre six cylinder petrol motor. I looked in similar places on the V8 and there is nada lifting points. I wrapped a short lifting sling around the front of the crankshaft a couple of times and put a shackle through it. There were two mounting holes at the back of the gearbox and I put two shackles so I could hook up a chain to them. The chain then hooked up to the front lifting sling. It is going to be interesting to hook up and lift the engine by itself once the gearbox is removed. Hooking up a chain around some of the exhaust manifold pipes does not really impress me that much. However, it seems like the only option that is currently available to me. There must be a better designed way to lift the motor!

No, I am not going to pressure clean the motor until I have it running and it can get nice and hot after the motor has been cleaned.

Kind regards
Lionel

3.9 I have here has lifting points.

Originally Posted by Tins

3.9 I have here has lifting points.

Hello Tins,

When you have some time, could you please take a photograph of the lifting points and post them on this thread? Thank you!

Kind regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello Tins,

When you have some time, could you please take a photograph of the lifting points and post them on this thread? Thank you!

Kind regards
Lionel

I'll try, Lionel. I'll have to find it first!

Hello All,

I bought the Rover V8 as a 3.5 litre. When I got it home I checked the engine numbers and it turned out to be a 3.9 Litre originally fitted to a Morgan Plus 8! The engine and gearbox was said to have come out of a Range Rover Classic. I was just after the power-plant and full gearbox and transfer case and was happy with what I bought. I still am. I automatically went Range Rover equals automatic gearbox. The engine and gearbox has been stored in my shed just behind my Commodore. It has been pretty much out of sight and out of mind.

I had a surprise today. The gearbox is a manual and not an automatic. The really long gear-stick should have been a bit of a give away! Doh! No, I do not get top marks for observation - do I!

The gearbox and engine were taken out of the Range Rover Classic and the body was scrapped well before I picked the parts up. Someone must have taken out the 3.5 and auto and installed the 3.9 and manual box sometime in the car's history. My care factor between an automatic and a manual gearbox was at the time and still is - zero.

Anyway, the engine and gearbox are no longer together. I will also be making another timber engine dolly as I was not too reassured with the small diameter of the bolts that my engine stand would fix the motor to. I feel safer with the engine secured by a timber frame and a set of castor wheels under the frame so I can move the motor around. The engine stand also requires the flywheel to be removed to secure the motor to the stand. This makes it pretty hard to use a starter motor to get the engine running! So timber dolly Mark III will be made next weekend.

A couple of photographs: The engine secured to the trailer while the overhanging gearbox is secured by the mobile crane. Plenty of ratchet straps including a 2. 5 tonne capacity strap to make sure the engine did not move around. The second photograph shows the empty trays on my trucks and tools cleaned and ready for next weekend! Oh and lots of bright light inside the shed.

Kind regards
Lionel