Removing Ignition Barrel from older Range Rovers.

**timberwolf_302** · 14th October 2006, 11:10 AM

Could someone tell me how to remove the ignition barrel/lock from a Rangie? There appears to be two rivet headed bolt looking things clamping it onto the column. How do I remove these?

The key broke in half inside it one night...and I had to remember not to turn it to lock position to be able to keep using it. It was fine for months untill my father went to drive the rangie (without telling me first) and he somehow f***ed it right up by turning it back to lock. It wont turn at all now (believe me, i've tried to for about 30mins of constant wiggling and gentle turning with the half key), and i'm pretty much stuck untill I at least get the steering lock off.

Thanks

**tony** · 14th October 2006, 11:27 AM

Mate there specially designed bolts the heads shere off when tight anti theft device get yourself a center punch with a sharp point and a small hammer and tap them anti clock wise useing the point on the center punch to dig in and turn them as if you were un-doing bolts they come out fairly easy

T

**ladas** · 14th October 2006, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by tony

Mate there specially designed bolts the heads shere off when tight anti theft device get yourself a center punch with a sharp point and a small hammer and tap them anti clock wise useing the point on the center punch to dig in and turn them as if you were un-doing bolts they come out fairly easy

T

Yep, totally agree the easiest and safest way.

I have heard of people tig/mig welding small nuts back onto the heads - but I would think there is too much to go wrong and quite dangerous. The centre punch approach would be the best way to go

**Michael2** · 14th October 2006, 05:05 PM

You can grind a small punch so that it becomes a small chisel. (flat sharp edge). Then score the bolts and use a standard screw driver to undo them.

Run a hacksaw blade along the score mark when you remove them to make it easier to for the screwdriver to locate when you put them back in.

**tonto73** · 14th October 2006, 05:39 PM

Exactly, during my years as a Locksmith we did exactly that. Used a centre punch and a small hammer to get them out. If we put the same ones back in we would hacksaw a common blade screwdriver slot in the head to install.

**Ralf_the_RR** · 14th October 2006, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by tonto73

Exactly, during my years as a Locksmith we did exactly that. Used a centre punch and a small hammer to get them out. If we put the same ones back in we would hacksaw a common blade screwdriver slot in the head to install.

I had to do this a few years ago for a barrel replacement (pink slip).
Took a while to get the thing out using a centre punch.
Replaced the bolts with standard ones.

**Relay** · 14th October 2006, 06:05 PM

I dunno about rangies...but the centre punch and hammer job is hellish on some cars...still, it's the only way I've encountered...I've seen several peoples try to drill them with not exciting results! I wouldn't suggest replacing them with standard bolts...unless you've got some other way of deterring theives. Oh...and make sure you dont loosen one right off and leave the other tight!

**DEFENDERZOOK** · 14th October 2006, 06:33 PM

have you tried to turn them by hand.......
most times they work themselves loose and are just sitting there......

**dungarover** · 14th October 2006, 07:13 PM

Make sure you have plenty of beer in the fridge, you'll need it.

This is a job up there with the heater core IMO, in other works a

of a job is the only word to describe it

The angle grinder did the trick for me and std bolts as replacement as well.

Trav

**Ralf_the_RR** · 14th October 2006, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Relay

I wouldn't suggest replacing them with standard bolts...unless you've got some other way of deterring theives.

I don't think anyone would want it.

It's Old
It's Ugly.
It's Slow.
It doesn't handle.
It's Thirsty.
Not a good getaway vehicle (maybe a ramraid).

Saying that, I do lock it when in car parks.

Serioulsy though.
To get to the bolts of the barrel requires removing the plastic covers.
An unsuspecting thief can't tell the difference by looking through the window.
The only advantage of undoing the lock is to prevent the steering lock working, and I'm sure they know how to break that.
The switch contacts (and wiring) are easily accessible.

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