Thread: Hill Descent Slipping

If they were going a little faster, than it would make sense they did not slip given the terrain. DON’T attempt to drive faster down, but if you do loose traction (and I know this feels counter intuitive – but is the right thing to do) blip the accelerator a little (and I mean a little if you are in low range), which should help you regain traction, once the wheels meet the speed of the vehicle. It is much safer than slipping to the bottom, as you can’t steer if you are slipping. negotiating steep descents is all about control, and the faster you go, the less you have!

Steep descents on Sand dunes are a great place to practice this. After all, you really need to know how much to blip that throttle, and when you are in low range 1st, that may not be much at all. Better to learn how the car responds in a controlled environment. However the car will behave differently on rock descents - the idea is only to get to know how the vehicle responds to accelearation when you are slipping on a steep decline. You will still need to use your judgement when driving.

Same goes for slippy muddy descents too – blip the throttle when you loose traction. Once regained, leave the car to do the work.

J

You have alot stronger engine braking than the vehicles mentioned,Ive also had the same prob in my Disco.Re did a run in second low no probs at all,BUT a tad too fast for my liking.
As Martin pointed out the correct method is to apply a LITTLE power to regain traction.
Andrew

ahhhh I see the problem, As I have found out the branding of the default tyre on the 03 extreme very misleading...

General Grabber My ass....

General slippers would be more like it.. Ive had the nasty feeling of traction being just a fleeting memory even with the TC doing its damndest to keep it under control. IMHO They're ok on dry black top and sand but other than that you may as well have racing slicks on

Cant wait to finally wear the buggers down to the point where they have to be replaced... a set of maxxis or BFG AT/MTs for me thanx

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

ahhhh I see the problem, As I have found out the branding of the default tyre on the 03 extreme very misleading...

General Grabber My ass....

General slippers would be more like it.. Ive had the nasty feeling of traction being just a fleeting memory even with the TC doing its damndest to keep it under control. IMHO They're ok on dry black top and sand but other than that you may as well have racing slicks on

Cant wait to finally wear the buggers down to the point where they have to be replaced... a set of maxxis or BFG AT/MTs for me thanx

if you dont rotate your spare into the equation.....you should get around 80,000kms out of them.....more if you drive easy.....

and i would have to say....for what they are...they are a very good tyre.....
but you really need to air down for them......
thats all ive ever had on lurch.....and theyve gotten me as far as everyone else on the trips.....

and i dont think you can beat them on the black stuff........

We have at times lightly applied the brakes in this sort of situation and regained control. You do not want to lock them up or else you are in all sorts of trouble.

We did one very steep hill where we had the rev counter on 400rpm as we were on the brake pedal so much. There was too much slipage when in low low only and the hill went on forever so we did not want to increase speed at all.

I normally like to take it slow and easy, even if I am on the brakes lightly.

Very slippery slopes eg wet clay are another story, you just go for a ride and enjoy it if you can with slight accelerator if reqd. and if your speed gets too high like it did for us on one hill, we found luckily an escape track half way down that we stopped on, then reversed back and started downhill again with a lot less speed.

Originally Posted by DEFENDERZOOK

if you dont rotate your spare into the equation.....you should get around 80,000kms out of them.....more if you drive easy.....

and i would have to say....for what they are...they are a very good tyre.....
but you really need to air down for them......
thats all ive ever had on lurch.....and theyve gotten me as far as everyone else on the trips.....

and i dont think you can beat them on the black stuff........

Hrmmm Yeah the tyre pressure thing is a good point and they are good on the black stuff, I love em under brakes not real keen on the sideways grip tho. mine are at 65k km ish and look like they have about 40 maybe 45% left to go and Im confident that If I look after em a bit more they might just make the 100k mark before MR plod says they gotta go.

Tell ya what, IF you like em you can buy em off me and I'll put your donation towards the cost of my prefered rubber. I'll chuck ya the spare for nix if ya like...

Seriously tho If anyone wants the spare when I goto my new rubber its yours so far it hasnt even sniffed the ground except when I pull it off to clean out the race in the mag and/or use it as a shower matt/impromptu seat.

If i can find the rubber I want at a price I like the rubber change will happen this year after tax debacle is sorted.

I had kind of overlooked the tyres in this. Certainly the other two vehicles were on wider rubber and fortunately it was only on the steepest pinch that the slipping occurred. I didn't let any air out either as we were mainly just forest driving.

80K from a set of tyres is OK - only I had trouble with an ultra-long lasting set of tyres on my other car which just got too hard over time even though they still had stacks of tread left. It was like driving on ice-skates. I only hope that I can get all FIVE tyres suitably worn out when I go to replace them or else I'll just end up putting Grabbers back on since I'm such a tight-ass and won't want to throw away the spare.

Silly question, but did you have CDL on?

Cheers,
Simon