Toyota reliability

**JDNSW** · 10th November 2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by discowhite

probably not the diff's fault! have you seen how MOST toyota drivers drive off road??

cheers phil

You may have a point - he is very reluctant to use four wheel drive, mainly because of the free wheeling hubs, I think, and routinely carries/tows loads that are probably close to the manufacturer's limits if not above. Apart from regular farm use it has gone all over central and Western Australia, although he borrowed my County to go across the Simpson.
John

**Norm Mueller** · 10th November 2006, 09:51 PM

We did a Simpson desert trek in the 80s somewhere with a MQ Patrol and a Hilux. Both heavily loaded (our Patrol was the full family affair) and the Hilux towing a small pop-up van. The Hilux snapped its tailshaft on one of the dunes and ended up with a banana shaped chassis to boot. We towed the van back and loaded most of the gear on the Patrol and it never missed a beat. That was our mate's last Hilux, he'd simply had too many and they all bent or broke. He went to Patrols after that.

Though the year before we were at Coongie Lakes in the Patrol and got mud in the diesel injection controller (the only electricals on the diesel engine). It was totally stuffed. Fixed it with a choke cable so when you need to stop the engine you pull the cable rather than turning the key.

**JDNSW** · 11th November 2006, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Norm Mueller

......... Fixed it with a choke cable so when you need to stop the engine you pull the cable rather than turning the key.

About three years ago I had a bloke cleaning out some dams - he got me to follow him back to the road, him driving his shovel, me driving his Patrol - When we got there I turned the key off - and it kept going! "Oh, you just pull this to stop it" - and he pulled a piece of tie wire sticking out from under the dash!
John

**hiline** · 11th November 2006, 06:29 AM

my mate has a Hilux that never breaks down

thats if you ask him

but in the last 2yrs its had a new motor/gearbox/rear diff/power steering pump/2 starters and a few other things minor
repair bills around $8-10,000

but its never broken down.........

**D110V8D** · 11th November 2006, 06:45 AM

And what about all the other Toyota's he's had?

I've heard some bad stories about front diffs in an IFS model he had.

**Bigbjorn** · 11th November 2006, 08:07 AM

Toyota Land Cruisers in the 60's-70's had clutch problems when hard used, i.e. used as an off-road should be capable of being used. Alot of owners would fit after-market heavier duty clutches. That is when they found out that the clutch was Toyota's "fusible link", as the rear diff. would then commonly fail. The diff design was inadequate so the thinking and caring factory solved an expensive redesign and retool problem by fitting an understrength clutch that would fail before the diff. Clutches were a cheaper warranty problem for Toyoda-san. Ahhh Sooo, customer noor happy? Ahh, you think we give a phuque?

**JDNSW** · 11th November 2006, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Toyota Land Cruisers in the 60's-70's had clutch problems when hard used, i.e. used as an off-road should be capable of being used. Alot of owners would fit after-market heavier duty clutches. That is when they found out that the clutch was Toyota's "fusible link", as the rear diff. would then commonly fail. The diff design was inadequate so the thinking and caring factory solved an expensive redesign and retool problem by fitting an understrength clutch that would fail before the diff. Clutches were a cheaper warranty problem for Toyoda-san. Ahhh Sooo, customer noor happy? Ahh, you think we give a phuque?

My first experience of Landcruisers was in the Simpson in 1965. As one of our blokes put it "War last 100 years - and they meant it!". Actually had few problems with the drive train, except for repeatedly breaking wheel studs. Problems included failure of seat frames, and general bodywork failures on the FJ45V, which were the roughest riding vehicles I have ever had anything to do with. Main show stoppers were carburetter and alternator problems, and one catastrophic fire resulting from having the fuel tanks inside the body. This actually put me off petrol vehicles for quite a while. (Toyota did not sell a diesel then of course, and in fact all our vehicles were petrol except for my Landrover)

John

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