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    Grumbling brakes

    I'm getting a noise that I can only describe as a grumbling or rumbling noise from the dsf when I hit the brakes. It doesn't seem to happen every time, but I couldn't under what circumstances it happens.

    Help please.

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    pads worn out......?

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    1. worn pads as Defenderzook suggests
    2. Damaged or warped rotor
    3. Loose wheel bearings
    4. Loose caliper
    5. Loose wheel
    6. Worn universal on the front prop shaft
    7. CV joint

    Probably could be other things as well, but that should give you something to look at.

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    Had a look today. Driver's side front has something drippy all over the edge of the rotor and the inside of the wheel rim. Both front sets of pads look pretty fat which makes me wonder how long they've been in there. I haven't replaced the pads in two and a bit years; these ones must wear slowly.

    At the back passenger side the pads are unevenly worn, the outside pad looks like it's worn on an angle. There's also a fair bit of something oily all over everything, rotor, caliper, wheel. I'm guessing one of the pistons has stuck.

    So, tomorrow out with the back brakes.

    If the front pads are covered in oil or brake fluid do they need to be replaced, or what? It'd be nice to use the spanky new front pads, 'cos the way they're wearing now I'll never need to change them from wear.

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    Well back is done, rain and dinner stopped play.

    There's something black dripping all over the inside of the passenger rear rotor. Seems to be leaking only onto inside of rotor. I think it caused the shoe to wear more quickly.

    Again, any help on what it could be. Didn't seem to be thin enough to be brake fluid, and wasn't smelly enough to be bio-diesel. Of course, once it's been mixed in with dust and gunk it's hard to tell what it is.

    Couldn't get to the front some mechanic has wound the lugs up so tight I broke my jack handle trying to get them off. So, bleed the front tomorrow, hope the old fluid doesn't mingle while I'm asleep.

    And what's the deal with that red anti-squeal stuff. Apply liberally my ars*, and applied liberally to my hands and the road, pavement, kids, clothes. Does anyone with any sense use this stuff, or is there a secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abaddonxi View Post
    Well back is done, rain and dinner stopped play.

    There's something black dripping all over the inside of the passenger rear rotor. Seems to be leaking only onto inside of rotor. I think it caused the shoe to wear more quickly.
    Sounds like if it is not brake fluid, it is oil or grease leaking from the hub seal (not sure whether that model had oil allowed into the wheel bearings). Should be able to identify by the smell, even if it is mixed with a lot of dirt - brake fluid and mineral oils smell different.

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    Thanks, JD.

    Yeah, you would think. I pulled off the axle end cap to see more play than I like, and some strong smelling thinnish oil. Not the same smell as my black stuff, but you're probably right.

    Opened the other axle end cap and it is full of a thicker more gooey stuff. I'm sure that end caps should contain the same stuff.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by abaddonxi View Post
    Thanks, JD.

    Yeah, you would think. I pulled off the axle end cap to see more play than I like, and some strong smelling thinnish oil. Not the same smell as my black stuff, but you're probably right.

    Opened the other axle end cap and it is full of a thicker more gooey stuff. I'm sure that end caps should contain the same stuff.

    Cheers,
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    Not necessarily - Landrover axles (up to some time after yours I think) had no seal between the wheel bearings and the diff, so the diff oil has free access to the bearings. But the bearings are assembled packed with grease, so that they run in a mixture of oil and grease, in what proportions depending on how long since the bearings were repacked (which may be different from side to side) and probably also depending on which side is normally parked downhill.

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    Spent what seems like half the week at Supercheap, Repco, local truck parts place, none of which have a LR hub nut socket. Went out to Karcraft, bearings for the front, new seals all round, and a hub nut spanner, and cheap as chips. Bearings were less than half what I was quoted from local bearing place.

    Every time I go out there I get a nice surprise.

    Gotta say, by the time I find all the bits, and the grease, and this and that, and go to the mechanic 'cos the last mechanic did up the front lugs so hard I bent everything I could find including the four foot bar, I reckon it'd probably be cheaper just to take it to the mechanic.

    And I still have to find a day when there's a parking spot out on the flat part of the street so I can have a go at it.

    Cheers
    Simon

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