Thread: Power Upgrade

geeez steve what did you start here

i best keep quite that mine has been tweeked as well

Originally Posted by weeds

geeez steve what did you start here

i best keep quite that mine has been tweeked as well

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Thank you JustinC for your balanced input
Look I answered this thread a bit tongue in cheek,If thats what you think is funny other people see as personal insults but a few people have flamed me without doing their homework Did enough of that when I went to TRADE SCHOOL and another thing you fail to realise is that the information that YOU find on googl is written by people like JustinC ( which I expected).
Yes I am an expert in Google.We would never had noticed I had a job that required research on many topics and I can usually find what I need. There is some skill in it and a lot of hours.eg proving that the Kia had a Rover V6 ( in general chat)Turns out that the V6 he was talking about is a Mazda based engine not Rover, Kia used a Rover V6 but not in the carnival in oz was what I got from that thread meant a lot of research and different combinations. Finally "Rover V6 Korea" found it .

I was trying to make a point. That the person making the statement about the USA could easily check the topic on Google before disputing what I say.
Ditto with the person saying there was no EGR on Disco300 Tdi.In OZ we didnt get EGR on the 300 TDI as Justin just said, Google didnt tell you that did it. Also one of the guys at work has a 2005 Chev dual cab with a duramax 6.6 diesel which is bog stock no tweaks which blows lots more smoke than my 10 y/o 300 TDI, he has been told by the experts that this is how they are meant to run and is perfectly legal and within specs

But I ask the question, why upgrade the power when you are not going to use it?Who ever said we werent going to use it, with my bigger rubber and rooftop tent and camping gear etc I could use the extra power
Nobody with any mechanical knowledge would suggest a diesel with an altered pump would produce significantly more pollution while at cruise Well I have been a Mainly Diesel based Mechanic (Qualified cert 1 main stream not heavy) for 15 years.

It is the going up the hill or even in undulating country towing a big caravan/trailer at full noise that the particulates would spew out. Or trying feebly to drag a petrol car from the lights, as I have had a TD5 try on me If he was trying he would have dragged you no worries unless yu have a highly modified 3.9 in you disco and why were you being so irrisponsible and drag racing anyway?. Unless you live in perfectly flat country, never accelerate /more accurately with a Tdi gain speed noticably,you WILL generate more particulates with a modified diesel More as in how much, be specific please. Anyone living on the coast of NSW will generate much more pollution because it is hilly.
Can you honestly say that you do not use the extra power A LOT. Its just human nature.Id use it every day
Being a member of the discovery 4WD club, Poor themI have been behind many tdis on many tracks and roads, and every one standard or modified has blown a lot of black smoke Bull crap, proove it(ie particulates) at some time. My wife has become ill Get your exaust leak fixed and dont stick so close behind other vehicals while 4wding it's dangerous and stupidon tracks when behind Tdis,and that is mainly idling and gently accelerating. Maybe its the way people drive them, but even in low range the following car gets a lungful on every start up.


There has been a lot of good old partisan support for diesels on this forum and its all good fun,may be for you but I have been a bit disturbed for a long time by the notion that it OK to pour more fuel in as long as the EGTs are less than critical,Thats the diesels measuring stick to make sure its all good with no consideration of the consequences regarding emissions which directly relates to the lungs of the poor drivers following.Like I said before tailgating is dangerous and stupid and you shouldnt do it


Regards Philip A

I am also quite insulted and peeved off that some one with so little actual knolage would get this deep into a debate on a subject that you have no idea about.

I love my Disco TDI and I also very much like the V8 versions as well as Rangies and I dont go putting them down because they are petrol and not Diesel.

I have stated in other treads and this one that petrol 4wd owners can be more likely to modify their engines in an irrisponsible manner and this is a true statment. I have worked as a Mechanic on earthmoving equipment, cars trucks, tractors, mowers and 4wd's and so I have seen just about every stupid mod that can be done and most of the diesel vehicals I have had anything to do with have had no mods and any mods that have been done has been with responsible motoring in mind and this is why im annoyed the most.

Google does not make you an expert, it is just a research tool and for you to believe everything you read on the net, well.......

If I have insulted you I apologise but Im just trying to get you to see it how it really is and not through the eyes of someone with a little bit of information and a grudge to bare.

Stepho waltzes in stage right with his hail o glowin red hot

Time for some common sense. Bugger me now there is a novel concept.

PhillipA is entitled to his opinion!

This is a democratic country and we do have freedom of speech. Personal denigration of an individual for his or her opinions is to my mind inappropriate.

I've deliberately not rejoined this discussion because I am not well enough versed on the subject to rebut PhillipA's statements but enough is enough.

I was, and still am offended by his statement but I'm a big boy now and this is not a school yard (mind you, you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise).

Writing things in a forum, as pointed out previously, is not the same as a face to face discussion. If phillipA and I were to meet face to face and explore other points of interest we might well agree on some subjects. That is what makes this world a rich and beautiful place.

Lets not spoil each others unfetered access to this magnificent forum with intolerance.

For what its worth, I am a firm believer in environmental conservation. My rig sits on a parking pad outside my house for 5 days a week as I try to limit its use and therefor its impact on the atmosphere.

For all of you, don't ever be afraid to make a statement that you believe in. Just be prepared to change your mind if you deem it necessary.

Regards,

Hello. This is my first attempt at the forum though I have read nearly everything with enthusiasm.
I have recently stolen (purchased at an excellent price), a 97 Disco Tdi. I previously owned a 92V8i which was excellent.
I became frightened to cross intersections or roads with visible traffic. "Just a bit sluggish. Very sluggish actually". I did the Uni filter, bigger intercooler and taipan exhaust thing but I also had the lady gassed. Wow. There is an article last year on more power from the Tdi300 which suggests a ceiling of 300Nm and 120kw when comparing the bottom end similarity to the 3.9 Isuzu.

I have my dyno reports beside me and I can accurately advise that I am getting 96 kws AT the wheels and 279Nms of torque. I am amazed at the difference. I am presently attempting some fuel trials......may take some time and the state($1000) and federal governments ($2000) reckon I'm that gooder bloke they are reimbursing me $3000.00 of the $4250 gas price. It is simple, the 20 litre gas tank mounts in the well under the left side, no loss of ground clearance and the gas lasts longer that the diesel (per tank). I have two or three more projects (nowhere near this expensive) to do and then I'm going to locate a well priced small caravan and take my time circumnavigating this great land. I'll advise of fuel savings but compared to standard outputs all in all I got nearly 50% boost which reminds me I got them to put in a larger intercooler to run 18psi. The standard one doesn't cope at 1 bar (14.5psi and hopeless at 15psi)
The gurus who performed the surgery are United Fuel Injection in Redcliffe. They were terrific.

I hope this is of some interest to someone.
Have a good one.

very well said Adrian its good to see some ethics and maturity in here!

However sarcasm can be fun too, so.......I reckon all tdi drivers should replace thier engines with 20yo V8's in order to save the environment from certain decline.....




firmly tongue in cheek!

Originally Posted by Stevo_62

Stepho waltzes in stage right with his hail o glowin red hot

Time for some common sense. Bugger me now there is a novel concept.

PhillipA is entitled to his opinion!

This is a democratic country and we do have freedom of speech. Personal denigration of an individual for his or her opinions is to my mind inappropriate.

I've deliberately not rejoined this discussion because I am not well enough versed on the subject to rebut PhillipA's statements but enough is enough.

I was, and still am offended by his statement but I'm a big boy now and this is not a school yard (mind you, you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise).

Writing things in a forum, as pointed out previously, is not the same as a face to face discussion. If phillipA and I were to meet face to face and explore other points of interest we might well agree on some subjects. That is what makes this world a rich and beautiful place.

Lets not spoil each others unfetered access to this magnificent forum with intolerance.

For what its worth, I am a firm believer in environmental conservation. My rig sits on a parking pad outside my house for 5 days a week as I try to limit its use and therefor its impact on the atmosphere.

For all of you, don't ever be afraid to make a statement that you believe in. Just be prepared to change your mind if you deem it necessary.

Regards,

Well said Adrian, everyone should take note of the final paragraph as it applies to most things in life...

JC

Originally Posted by edddo

very well said Adrian its good to see some ethics and maturity in here!

However sarcasm can be fun too, so.......I reckon all tdi drivers should replace thier engines with 20yo V8's in order to save the environment from certain decline.....




firmly tongue in cheek!

Ha ha ha

As my dear old mum who turned 83 last week constantly says

"Sarcasm is the wit of a fool"

Then with a sly smile she usually adds

"But then only a fool would comment"

Tounge very firmly in cheek