Non-original motors

I had a 2A with a 202 and one with a gas 186, the 202 would cruise at 110-120 and still had enough in reserve to overtake, it was a very healthy 202 but the noise was excessive even with a Fairey overdrive. I didn't want to lose my low range ability so didn't want to do the high ratio diffs, but if I did a lot of miles I might have thought different. Fuel consumption was 10-14 mpg or 20-22 if you drove at 80-90kmh.

The gas 186 was in a wagon so probably heavier in the body and the motor was very tired. It would struggle to get to 100 but got 14mpg on either gas or petrol. I was going to put the 202 in the wagon and have the best of both worlds, but borrowed some money and bought a new Defender.

Although the Defender is nice it is a lot of money and the gas motor was cheaper to run at the time. I think the 2A with the 202 would be good, if you wear it out they are easy to recondition or pick one up from a rusty Holden. You could fit a yella terra head or similar for better performance . For not a lot of money you could make it nice to drive, make it quieter and you can make them steer nicely. They don't always have to have half a turn of play in the steering just because thats what most have.


Jeff :rocket:

[quote=Jeff;546837]was a very healthy 202 but the noise was excessive even with a Fairey overdrive.

Thats probably why the noise was excessive. (The Fairey Overdrive that is.)

Cheers, Mick.

No the Fairey was not that noisy, it did whine a bit but the revs of the motor in an unlined hardtop made more. When I got the wagon with headlining and door trims it was surprising how much quieter it was, I don't think I could go back. The noisiest was when I had a ute top on, it was like being in a Hercules!

Jeff :burnrubber:

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I've had 2 Nissan LD28 powered series 3's and found it to be an excellent conversion. 6 cylinders so no probs with gearboxes, they love the std gear ratios so no need to fit overdrives or high ratio diffs and give a top speed of 150 kmh. They will pull 6000 rpm no problem, so sitting on 4000 at 100 kmh is no problem yet have more torque at low rpm's than my TDI. they are the diesel version of the nissan 280z motor.:D

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Originally Posted by jimbo110

I've had 2 Nissan LD28 powered series 3's and found it to be an excellent conversion. 6 cylinders so no probs with gearboxes, they love the std gear ratios so no need to fit overdrives or high ratio diffs and give a top speed of 150 kmh. They will pull 6000 rpm no problem, so sitting on 4000 at 100 kmh is no problem yet have more torque at low rpm's than my TDI. they are the diesel version of the nissan 280z motor.:D

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That sounds good, Jimbo. A couple of questions - what are they out of? And do you know where the conversion kits were from?

I haven't heard of this conversion - is it a NZ special?

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Originally Posted by scrambler

That sounds good, Jimbo. A couple of questions - what are they out of? And do you know where the conversion kits were from?

I haven't heard of this conversion - is it a NZ special?

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They are mostly out of nissan Laurels, the older LD28 is much better than the RD28 that replaced it. Not just a kiwi thing, the place in the UK selling the 6.2 chev V8 diesels also sold them. They sell here on Trade me for around $300-$500 with the conversion adaptor for landrover, sometimes the adaptor comes up for sale at around $50.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...981147.htm?p=1


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...268718.htm?p=4

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...157876.htm?p=2

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...34803.htm?p=18

Its a very popular conversion, there are 3 LD28 powered land rovers on trade me at the moment.:D

I firmly believe a High Ratio transfer conversion is the best option with a Holden conversion rather than o/d or RR diffs. You keep a decent low range and they are relatively quiet and reliable. Mine would cruise comfortably on 110 - it was a very driveable vehicle.

That said, IMHO, I dont believe any Series LR is going to be an ideal touring vehicle. Its always going to be a noisy, hot or cold, rough riding, heavy steeering truck with poor ergonomics and minimal (none) safety features, even with a lot of money spent on it. I would get a Tdi Defender or similar for the touring vehicle and keep a Series (or two!) for other purposes............

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...That said, IMHO, I dont believe any Series LR is going to be an ideal touring vehicle. Its always going to be a noisy, hot or cold, rough riding, heavy steeering truck with poor ergonomics and minimal (none) safety features, even with a lot of money spent on it. I would get a Tdi Defender or similar for the touring vehicle and keep a Series (or two!) for other purposes............

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I've driven my SIII thoughout the Kimberley, Melbourne to Darwin afew times, done the Simpson & Central Aus as well as shorter touring around Vic.

I found the SIII to be an easier vehicle to live with off road than the Range Rover, though the RR was faster, smoother, quieter. Driving the SIII was a pleasure (& adventure), but it's a totally different style of driving.

After last years Simpson Trip (SIII & Defender), I decided it was time to get a Defender. One of the problems with touring with an older vehicle, is that the pace & style of travel is so vastly different. In by gone years everyone crawled under their cars at the end of the day and checked oil levels or tightened stuff. New cars require a lot less maintenance, so if you're touring with newer vehicles, it's an incompatible style of travel. I'd be in overalls under the SIII while everyone else was having a cold beer around the fire.

Provided you tour with the mindset that the series landy will require more attention than a newer landy, I think you can still enjoy the adventure. And it adds a lot of character to your photos & stories.

Now the new 3.6 TDV8 out of the new rangie would make a hoot of a hybrid engine for the series. :D:D:D

Shame the engine would cost more than the rest of the finished vehicle :(

Blythe

P.S. I really want one for my Disco then rip the body off and a tray back series III body on top then.........

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Originally Posted by jimbo110

I've had 2 Nissan LD28 powered series 3's and found it to be an excellent conversion. 6 cylinders so no probs with gearboxes, they love the std gear ratios so no need to fit overdrives or high ratio diffs and give a top speed of 150 kmh. They will pull 6000 rpm no problem, so sitting on 4000 at 100 kmh is no problem yet have more torque at low rpm's than my TDI. they are the diesel version of the nissan 280z motor.:D

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With this conversion, I take it the LD28 bolts up to the series gearboxs, or does the series tranfer bolt onto the LD28's gearbox?