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  1. 12th June 2007, 06:12 PM #1
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    Question ENGINE GONE 172000ks ANYONE ELSE??

    Hi all quick story.
    Coming home temp went up v fast, rolled the last 100m home, yeh that close, no warning.

    Had the head removed, 5mm cracks near 2,3,4 glow plugs gone between 2-3 even without crack testing, I've a new paper weight, gets better.
    Say using the front of the vehicle as a guide sitting in DRV's set, ea bore has a score about 10mm wide (going down, "travel") 1,3,4 could get away, maybe, with a hone, 2 no, rebore.

    Now this veh 96 Disco manual 300TDI has been svc'd every 10000by last owner, I svc it 7500 (free oil) with DELLO Silver, coolant done 10000, water pump fine, runs a FINER filter with snorkle and as said 172000 on the clock.
    Now this went from 1/3 temp to 3/4 in no time, I'd just turned a corner 200m back no pulling issues (uphill), and went past a servo temp guage on the building 1k earlier reading 2* and I remember looking at temp 1/3ish
    Anyone come across this in the bores, I've put it back on L/R (being ex L/R svc manager 94-5-6 and still a mech) for answers, I've never come/seen across this.
    Be no change out of $6000 on this one.
    Any help from the panel of learnered people.

    Thanks for any replys
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  2. 12th June 2007, 06:27 PM #2
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    Got to ask, has it been tweaked or not running Bio Diesel or anything out of the ordinary, not that these things would deffinatly cause this but could be a part of it.

    Im not an engine builder, only done building at trade school and a few for mates and myself, never a 300 tdi so probably nothing new here.

    Sounds to me that a fault in the head probably caused by it over heating at one stage probably before you owned it caused a masive failure.

    Might be better getting an Inter 2.8 for $10g's off jason if he still has any left, whats another $4g's when you get no follow up probs and a whole new donk to boot.
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  3. 12th June 2007, 06:43 PM #3
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    My 1995 Disco did the same at 230000. Running one minute then the end. I thought the engine was on fire when i lifted the bonnet. The end result was that the head gasket had let go between 2 & 3. the head melted, injectors & valves melted, cylinder 3 has a alloy lining from the molten head. The car is now in the back shed unregistered & deemed to expensive to fix. May get a doner vehicle on day.

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  4. 12th June 2007, 07:10 PM #4
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    IVe seen it but not under those circumstances...

    mainly on engines used for burnouts where they do lots of rpms with little cooling flow the oil gets hot sloshed and the bores over heat. (yeah ok I had my country hick burnout phase)

    as the cylinders run hotter in a diesel anyway I suspect that It would be pretty much fatal to the piston skits and bores....
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  5. 12th June 2007, 07:18 PM #5
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    Thanks gents, no fuel other than normal pump diesel, BP-Shell mainly in the area, even had the Shell tanker in at work so asked him about any funny fuel this time of year (Adelaide) still nothing. She gets the best of everything oils ect my wife drives it mainly with the kids and I'm away a fair bit (work) so I don't skimp on any of the vehs ie mainternace.
    Plainly I started my trade in Volvo's and Isuzu trucks in 1989, never seen/heard of anything like this or so premature (Diesel), if it was a ***** box and never looked after you'd understand I'm also a firm believer of Murphy's law but if this "might" be a L/R prob well I'm not footing the whole bill!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  6. 12th June 2007, 07:19 PM #6
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    Sadly I have one ATM in the workshop with pistons smeared up and down the cylinder walls. This would make it 2 D1's in 2 years with the same result to a serious overheat. The first one drove 25km with almost no coolant and actually stopped (Read siezed) and the owner noticed nothing thinking it was a headwind!!! The recent one drove up a long and steep hill and the same thing, ' it was loosing power so I changed down a gear and tried a bit harder'...Both of them swore blind it hadn't overheated until they stopped and saw steam and smoke. Both temp gauges apparently registered normal until the last minute. This is a good time to recommend people fit a low coolant level alarm....


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  7. 12th June 2007, 09:34 PM #7
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    I agree with Justin, a low coolant alarm like enginesaver is cheap insurance against a major coolant loss that goes un-noticed. $180 versus $10000, hard to argue with!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRUT View Post
    I agree with Justin, a low coolant alarm like enginesaver is cheap insurance against a major coolant loss that goes un-noticed. $180 versus $10000, hard to argue with!!!!!
    I agree see my post earlier

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=38697

    Temp gauge didn't move each time however speaking to the mechanic he explained that the 1st line on the temp guage is normal and the second is hot and by the time it has reached the top of the symbol it has seriously over heated. The high mark is time for rebuild.

    Last time the head gasket blew was 2 km from top of Cunningham's Gap with a B double behind that I had just over taken and I couldn't stop due to no area to do so. It dropped power and I looked down to see the needle shoot up. Well the rest is history.......

    Now I have a low water alarm
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  9. 12th June 2007, 10:28 PM #9
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    one of the things I like about this forum is all the stuff I learn.... unfortunately a lot of the time at the expense of problems others have to deal with... I hope they get sorted soon....

    Some thoughts that come to an uneducated mind.... particularly with diesels...

    In a diesel is the temp gauge conected to the motor at the thermostat ? If so, is it on the engine or radiator side of it ?

    Would a thermostat stuck closed lead to this or something similar ? (happened to my EA, no surprises there though lol)

    What is the affect of diesel contaminated with ULP or some other high octane petroleum ?

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  10. 12th June 2007, 10:45 PM #10
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    and you expect Land Rover to contribute to the repair replacement costs

    On what grounds ?

    No warranty or guarantee in place so why do you expect a co-contribution from anyone at all

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