Thread: D1 Airbags "What year"

Originally Posted by oldzook

Mine is S spec (poverty pak) which I specifically sought out for this reason and it also has no ABS.

I BELIEVE that pillows have a use by date of 10yrs.

SWMBO is vertically challenged so this was another strike against SRS.

When I went to trade school around 2000 it was in the Vicroads specs on air bags that all airbags must be checked every 10 years regardless of manufactures specifications.

I dont know if it has been changed but I remember when this came in when several euro car airbags were going off for no reason in around the mid 90's and that was when I first heard about it but didnt read it myself until in trade school.

Gav I would try to steer clear of an air bag D1 if possible as it is illegal to do a lot of things to an airbag fitted vehical and once it has been rego'd with air bags as far as I know is you cant remove them legally (without probably engineering it id assume you could do that).

Originally Posted by mcrover

Gav I would try to steer clear of an air bag D1 if possible as it is illegal to do a lot of things to an airbag fitted vehical and once it has been rego'd with air bags as far as I know is you cant remove them legally (without probably engineering it id assume you could do that).

And this is why I asked the question.
Its a very grey area, and the engineers I have spoken to do not have an answer and will be askink VicRoads.

Dave.

You should be able to argue that these models have passed ADR's without airbags.

The airbags were an option not a legal requirement.

Originally Posted by duff

You should be able to argue that these models have passed ADR's without airbags.

The airbags were an option not a legal requirement.

Yeah well it's deffinatly worth an ask and I would like to hear how you go with it as it is a really grey area at the moment as a lot of cars that werent optioned with out airbags are getting to that 10 year mark now and I dont even know where you would get them checked or are you just meant to get them replaced.

Even our 98 carolla will need the airbags checked next year by what I read back then so I will really be interested in what comes from it.

By the way, if you do ask Vicroads, ask about 3 people to get the 3 different answers and then makesure you get it in writting or get them to underline where they got it from and then pick the answer that suits you, they used to be prone to that sort of thing as there are a lot of guidelines within the laws that get people confused.

Got me thinkimg so I surfed the ADR's and the SA state legislation covering this. It seems that ADR 69/00, 72, and 73 cover this area. There are still no laws that stipulate that a car must have airbags. What is required is that a vehicle wll pass crash test to within a given standard. (basically)

So I rang the engineers/inspectors at the goverment inspection station here in Adelaide and put this to them. They confirmed that if the discovery was sold without airbgs within the chassis range that the discovery would have had to pass the crash tests without airbags. Therefore you can have them removed.

So if they were optional you do not have to have them fitted. If they are standard fit accross a range of vehicles then you would be hard pressed to have them removed. the vehicle manufacturer would have to show that the vehicle had met the standard without them fitted.

So that is the gospel in South Australia today.

Originally Posted by mcrover

Yeah well it's deffinatly worth an ask and I would like to hear how you go with it as it is a really grey area at the moment as a lot of cars that werent optioned with out airbags are getting to that 10 year mark now and I dont even know where you would get them checked or are you just meant to get them replaced.

Even our 98 carolla will need the airbags checked next year by what I read back then so I will really be interested in what comes from it.

By the way, if you do ask Vicroads, ask about 3 people to get the 3 different answers and then makesure you get it in writting or get them to underline where they got it from and then pick the answer that suits you, they used to be prone to that sort of thing as there are a lot of guidelines within the laws that get people confused.

I bought a 95 Rossignol new (in 95) which didn't have airbags...

GQ

Thats right - but I haven't come across the VSI from vicroads which says you are allowed to do it.
I tried ringing Vicroads through the customer service line, but to no avail. I will ring a direct line through work and try and get transfered

Anyway, my make is a 4/95 and ADR60/00 was implemented at 6/95 - so there is another case for it.
And as it was an ADDED factory option it is a supplementary safety system and hence could be removed.
I just want to be able to get the car engineered/approval in writing that it is possible to take them out.

Cheers
Dave.

Dave, have you checked with SClarke, as i think he had this issue with his disco

PS hurry up and swap those springs discos nearly home