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    Question Wheels & Tyres for 110

    Hi All,

    Just after a bit of advice regarding replacement wheels & tyres for our 'new' Isuzu County 110.

    It's currently on standard rims (steel 5.5x16x33 offset) and has 7.5R16 tubed tyres. Suspension is standard height but a 2" lift might be on the cards this year.

    This is basically a weekend car, bought for off-roading fun! So was thinking of Mud Terrains on new steel rims.

    I have done a search and read quite a few threads, but here are few questions for those with experience in these matters:

    1) Are AT's better than MT's on sand? I read in a UK LR magazine article that AT's are best as the tread is less aggressive, so digs in less - is this only an issue if you start to spin and therefore 'dig'?
    2) Is the offset of a 6.5" steel rim (say a wolf) different to the 5.5" rim?
    3) Is a Wolf rim tubeless compatable? Would love to get rid of tubes as I like the tyre sticks for temp repairs!
    3) BFG MT's or Goodyear MTR's? What's best in your opinion.
    4) Nexus Tyres - anybody tried these?
    5) Was thinking of 235/85R16, but is a 265/75 OK on a 6.5" rim, or does it need to be 7"?
    6) If I went 265/75 R16, will they scrub with standard suspension / arches, etc? (110 County)

    I don't want to go larger than a 6.5" rim after reading rule 1 of this:

    http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/1884.asp

    EDITED, just to put the above link in context, these are the conditions to be met so that you don't have to get prior-approval from WA DPI.

    Thanks in advance,

    Jon
    Last edited by D3Jon; 13th August 2007 at 11:43 AM. Reason: Clarification of link

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    You should be right fitting 235/85R16's to the 5.5 rims. That said, there's no real advantage over the 7.50s except wider choioce of tyres. You should be able to get some decent though older looking treads in 7.50.

    Yes, the gen-u-wine wolf rims are tubeless - and you could afford to carry multiple spare rims and tyres for the additional cost of the Wolf ones.

    Tread doesn't matter as much as pressure - you need to remember that the same rules apply for heavily treaded tyres and for bald ones. The main thing is - there is no advantage to heavy tread patterns in sand, and potentially the digging disadvantage. You want to have the forward edge of the tyre compressing the sand, not trying to "bite" it.

    EDIT: - After reading the rules link you posted, you can go quite a bit wider than 6.5 inches. The vehicle (which is = current Defender) can be fitted ex-factory with up to 7 inch rims, so 8 inch rims are the maximum.
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    When I got my 130 TD5 it had alloys with huge/wide tyres on it (don't know the actual size - but big...).

    I changed them to tubeless Wolf rims with original fitment (for a 130) Michelin XZL 750R16 tyres. Much improved steering, quieter on the road and looks 100% better in my opinion. Alloys on a defender don't look as good as steel rims IMHO.

    For sand work the original 'skinny' tyres are as good as anything. Deflate to 15-18PSI and they are great.

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    I have ozzie army rims mine are 6" wide and a wider offset

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    Here's a UK link for XZLs on Wolf rims:
    http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFE...olf_wheel.html

    Forgot to say in the prev post that they are the favourite tyre of long distance expeditions for their long wear and puncture proof characteristics, and the Wolf rims are probably the strongest rims you can buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post
    You should be right fitting 235/85R16's to the 5.5 rims.
    Thanks Scrambler, I'm not sure (and I could easily be wrong) but I thought from reading a few threads on here that I'd have to get new rims for two reasons, 1) The rims I have are not suitable for tubeless tyres? and 2) The 235/85 tyre had to have a 6" rim minimum? If I can save a few dollars on rims, then it all goes towards that locking rear diff !

    Jon
    Last edited by D3Jon; 13th August 2007 at 07:33 PM. Reason: replaced "quid" with "dollars" - wrong country!!

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    I use steel disco rims on my 110 because they are tubeless. I think they are 6.5s. I run 235/85s. They are good, little wider than 7.5016s.

    1990 county would be a rare find, only the 2nd i've heard of.

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    Disco Steels are 7 inch... perfect for 235s but too wide for 7.50s. 235/85s are actually 9.25 inch wide but have the same (or very similar) diameter as 7.50s

    235/85s is what I have on the old Series II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3Jon View Post
    ... 1) The rims I have are not suitable for tubeless tyres?
    If they are standard County steel rims then they are definitely not suitable for tubeless tyres. Will work OK unless and until you drop the pressure below about 18psi, or you have a sudden flat, when there is a risk they will roll off the rim.

    I researched County rims + tubeless extensively last year and got all sorts of conflicting advice from tyre shops who you think should have known what they were talking about but usually didn't. Finally got the definitive technical info buried somewhere on the DOTARS site I think.

    Chris

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    Quid would have been fine - still gets used for Aussie dollars

    There are a range of widths specified for given tyre sizes which differ depending on the tyre manufacturer Some 235/85 can be fitted to 5.5 rims. The narrower the rim, the taller the tyre stands so there is an arguement for using the narrowest rim you can for your prefered tyre.

    As for the tubed/tubeless - You will need tubes, which I myself don't mind doing with a tubeless tyre, but that some feel compromises the tyre.

    I have 235/85 Simex road tyres on my 110 County rims, fitted at a tyre shop. They might not know what they are doing, but they did it without hesitation.

    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't Defenders fitted with 235/85 tyres on 5.5 inch rims?
    Steve

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