your welcom to borrow mine to practice with to see if you want to undertake a whole car before you buy one.
I am about to attempt to spray paint some wheels for Leon. Having very limited experience and knowledge of spraying I am after some info. I have a decent compressor and need to purchase a spray gun. What type should I get? I will probably end up painting a whole vehicle at some stage, so a gun that is suitable for this purpose is what I'm after.
Numpty
Thomas - 1955 Series 1 107" Truck Cab
Leon - 1957 Series 1 88" Soft Top
Lewis - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil Gunbuggy
Teddy5 - 2001 Ex Telstra Big Cab Td5
Betsy - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil GS
REMLR No 143
your welcom to borrow mine to practice with to see if you want to undertake a whole car before you buy one.
Dave
"In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."
For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.
Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
TdiautoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)
If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.
I bought a set of 3 guns from Mitre 10 ....1 for primer , 1 for top coating and 1 for small tough up jobs . I paid something around the $130 mark and it has done a real good job for what they are . Just make sure you clean the guns properly after use and should last along time![]()
For spraying small jobs, e.g. model aircraft, I use a gravity feed gun like this: http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/dent8.html
They also have the advantage of only needing small quantities of paint to be mixed.
Mine has an adjustable angle pot so it can be used in a variety of positions.
I'll use the same one when spraying the 2A as I'll be removing the panels and doing them individually.
(My guns are Iwata brand which I bought nearly 30 years ago when I did my Panel Beating Journeyman course at Granville Tech)
Ron
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Ron B.
VK2OTC
2003 L322 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA
RIP Bucko - Riding on Forever
Something to always remember after you clean guns with gunwash is to leave a small clean amount of the wash in the canister. If you're after a good gun to spray excellent finishes with on a complete car try to get a gravity-fed gun as the suction type are really clumsy. There are only certain times you need a suction gun and it's not as often as you can use a gravity gun for better results and easier spraying. Although I am sure that a hardware spray gun would work well a few times, if you are going to do a job as big as a Land Rover you want a proper gun. So check out shops around your area that are connected to the smash repair shops, not Repco or Supercheap Auto of course but shops that supply smash repair shops with their needed products, all weights of MIG wire, stick electrodes, quality bog and aluminium 'race' tape, proper masking paper and painters tape for example. Example of what I mean is a store called KGP near me in Emu Plains, it has decent guns available.
How much info are you actually after? Aside from being able to look it all up on Wikipedia , it's an incredibly easy task once you know the basics. If you are dead set keen to paint your own car and save a few grand off labour costs etc then I can't recommend enough to get a proper quality spray gun. It'll cost more but last you twice as long, is easy to get needles and nozzles for, won't clog as much as a cheapy and will more then likely have proper air flow. For small jobs or just an offroad basher then a cheap gun is fine but for a decent finish, big job you don't want to compromise.
The secret to successful spray painting, as with any other type of painting, is preparation. This is where the work is as well, so it has a tendency to get skimped. But put the work in to it, if you really do want to get a good finish and a durable paint job. Mind you, some of the paint jobs that I have seen on restored Landrovers are far better than anything that came out of the factory! Remember that particularly the Series 1 was very much a utility vehicle with no pretensions to a good finish in paint or any other aspect.
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Thanks for replys. So it seems a gravity feed gun is the way to go, what sort of pressure do these usually use? Appreciate your comments on S1's John. I agree, a few of the restored ones wouldn't look out of place at a Rolls Royce gathering.I will be doing only wheels to start with, after all, Leon is in good, used condition, which suits him and us admirably.
Probably the first whole vehicle I'll be painting will be Castrol, and that will be Olive Drab, so again, nothing flash.
But you all know how it is, we've reached a stage in life where we can indulge ourselves a little, ie we can....so we do. That's why I wish to buy a spray gun.![]()
Numpty
Thomas - 1955 Series 1 107" Truck Cab
Leon - 1957 Series 1 88" Soft Top
Lewis - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil Gunbuggy
Teddy5 - 2001 Ex Telstra Big Cab Td5
Betsy - 1963 Series 11A ex Mil GS
REMLR No 143
in all seriousness see if you can try em before you buy em... the comfort factor of the gun can make the difference between getting it just so on the first run....
Ive got 2 i dont like and have relegated them to degreaser guns.
Dave
"In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."
For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.
Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
TdiautoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)
If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.
G'day All, Iwata make the best spray gun on the market, I swear by mine, not cheap by any means but damn good anyway cheers Dennis
PS Even for Dummies like ME!!!!!!!!
I sprayed my series 3 with a vacuum cleaner low pressure spray gun and the car looked great - because a good spray job on a crappy body looks out of place - the job I was able to achieve matched the rippled panels on a landy - note how the nice shiny paint on a new defender looks out of place even in the showroom.
However if I painted my jag I would be looking at spending at least $600 on top level gravity feed gun.
My point is to buy what is suitable for the job - for your wheels go to a paint shop and get them to make up a few pressure packs with the required colour paint already in them - they will give a great finish for what you want and save the cost of a gun. The cost is only marginally more than a pressure pack you buy at Super Crap and you will have the colour you want.
For Leon later on - I would suggest a medium priced ($150) gravity feed gun from a auto paint shop - will give a good finish at a reasonable price - for any landrover you do not want a paint job that was better than an original - which was not all that good.
When you do Leon, you can do my Baby as well - as far as I can tell both our cars are virtually twins except Leon is in better nick.
Garry
REMLR 243
2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
1977 FC 101
1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
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