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    Question Are my brakes inadequate...

    ... or is this normal?

    Got a 'fender recently (County 90, V8 converted from 200 tdi) and am finding the brakes taking a while to bring the car to a stop. It's got solid discs both front and rear (i.e not vented), look to be in good shape, no uneven wear, plenty of brake pads left from what I can tell.

    Larger than normal tyres are on it at the moment (not sure what the size is in inches, but the tyres are 265 /75 R16). I'm finding that I really have to stomp on the brake pedal for it to start stopping. Is this normal, and if so, what can I do to improve my stopping power.

    If not, what should I look for / test for to determine if the brakes are working OK or not. I haven't found them to be "dropping".

    Any help would be greately appreciated. Oh, other than the bigger engine, tehre is no additional weight on the car.

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    pump the breaks 5 or 6 times that should exhaust the vac reserve and give you a firm pedal.

    if thats all good then the master cylinder is ok providing that the pedal dosent sink

    now start the car the pedal should sink to about the 3/4 of max travel position

    if that happens then the vac application is good

    shut the engine down

    you should be able to apply the brakes at least twice with the vacume reserve which you will here letting go

    as i posted in another thread, try that lot first

    then inspect the pads for glazing and since you have to pull them out to do that rub them down on a flat wet piece of smooth concrete (those 2x2 foot paving slabs are perftect) to remove any glazing and then put a small chamfer on the leading edge of each pad.

    see what that reveals and get back to us...
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    Dave has given a good explanation as to how to test the brakes. The oversize tires will have an adverse effect on braking, but should not be all that much. My guess is that you have either a sick vacuum system (if you are using manifold vacuum excessive idling speed will reduce the vacuum available or there may be a kinked hose fro example) or a small vacuum leak.

    Those brakes do quite a good job of pulling up a fully loaded 110, so they should do OK with the 90.

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    Thanks, will give this a try over the long weekend (in WA ) and get back to you.

    Cheers

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    I just replaced my fronts with slotted ... with new pads .. messy pads but I can lock her up no problem .. she is still heavy, you need to count for that.. but them new pads and disks made a hell ofa difference ...

    I had warped disks, and hated driving the 110... had to fix the friggen thing.

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    Bojan,
    What year is the vehicle, as the Defenders came with drum rear brakes for a while. If the rear has been converted from drum to disc without doing anything about the master cylinder, it could make the brakes a bit stiffer. I'm running 255/85x16 on my 90 with the drum rear brakes, and I have no problems with pulling it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmurray View Post
    Bojan,
    What year is the vehicle, as the Defenders came with drum rear brakes for a while. If the rear has been converted from drum to disc without doing anything about the master cylinder, it could make the brakes a bit stiffer. I'm running 255/85x16 on my 90 with the drum rear brakes, and I have no problems with pulling it up.
    That's a great point, I think it's somewhere between '85 and '89. It was likely to have come with drums at the back. How could I check this?

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    Im pretty sure that at that age it would have had drums on the back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Offender90 View Post
    That's a great point, I think it's somewhere between '85 and '89. It was likely to have come with drums at the back. How could I check this?
    If before 1989, for a start, it is not a Defender, and could not have had a 200 Tdi, as they were not introduced until 1989. But V8s were fitted from new, although I am not sure about the 90, as they were not sold in Australia until well after then. The Defender name was only introduced in 1989 to distinguish what were simply called Landrovers from Landrover Discovery.

    And rear discs were only introduced in, I think, 1991.

    Somewhere, and I am sure someone else can give the URL, there is a website that you can put in your VIN and it will give the original configuration of your vehicle.

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    Defender name was only introduced in 1989 to distinguish what were simply called Landrovers from Landrover Discovery


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