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Thread: Heeeeeelp - Td5 Headbolt Broken - Need A Mobile Tig Welder

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEFENDERZOOK View Post
    whats wrong with using a decent set of vice grips on it.......?
    I was going to suggest that too. Would have to be a very good pair done up real tight. It's the sort of job you'd only get one good go at.
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    I' should be in place to attack that bolt by 0830 if all goes in accordance to the plan....

    to prevent thread hijacks Multiple Pms have been sent.
    Dave

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    had a bolt snap the head clean off in a block once... had about 15mm of threaded section stickin out (aloominuuum block)

    took three days of penetrine, repeated heating the bolt with a paint stripper while keeping the block cold (ice packs), alternated with heating the block and cooling the bolt quickly with ice. I filed a pair of flats on the opposite sides of the remnants and gave it all a final heat and cool the bolt only then stuck a good quality, tightly fitting frozen 18 inch shifter on it and I swear I could have turned it out by hand... big relief all round and a beer or two for my mate the metalurgist for his suggestions

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    Dude!

    (see I even registered on here to show my love, lol )

    We called you bush mechanic in NL in jest. Don't blemish the good name of it at home in Oz by buggering around please!


    Couple of thoughts-

    are you SURE it is not already up to or past the required torque setting? That way you could leave it for another day at least. It appears practically in as far as needed.



    Otherwise means that either you were using crap tool (not typical of you), were gungho to point of silliness (not typical of you - well almost ), or the bolt head was defective. Would be good to be sure and share that knowlegde with the forum.

    Bolt welding seems to be the best solution. I'd be inclined to remove as much as possible out of the head - rockers etc in view of your current luck.

    I'd have given 50c to have seen and heard you as this happened - stop being shy and stick the skype web cam up in the garage please!

    Progress report eagerly awaited. Good to see the Landycrew are as friendly as teamclog

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    And have you bought the IRWIN and tried this yet?

    It looks the business and I'd imagine it's designed to take loads like this.

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    by the looks of what is left do not think there is enough left of the head for an irwin to get a grip plus they are for normal bolt heads, if it near the factory torque setting even using an easy out is risky untill you remove the shoulder off the bolt head which would remove the clamping force and make removing the bolt easier.

    This is how I would do it if I had no access to a welder, first grind the head flat, then carefully drill a small centre hole go up a couple of drill sizes to suit an easy out drill this hole below the shoulder of the bolt,next drill a hole that is bigger than the bolt shank by a couple of mm and drill carefully till the bolt head comes off.

    This should now make it easy to remove the bolt make sure you have a new bolt to go straight in,ths bolt is a pain to get to you may have to undo the rear gear box mounts and jack up the trans to allow you to drill the holes with a normal drill
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    this is turning into a good story
    don;t forget to take photos of daves work at each stage,
    has the makings of a good how too!!!!!

    Dave does this go towards a credit in one of the competency areas.?




    john
    Last edited by JohnE; 7th November 2007 at 02:12 PM. Reason: fgt something

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    Can you replace one head bolt if the rest are already torqued up? How important is the sequence and stages with these heads?

    Bruce.

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    Guys Thanks for your hints & tips.

    I will be taking pictures of all of the gory details for you to lust over!

    I hope that no one else has to experience these joy's any time soon!!!

    Dave the generous soul, is coming to help me (well actually I think I will be helping him ) Saturday morning - early.

    He has given me some homework to finish beforehand though, so I'd better get cracking!

    Will keep you a brest of the 'progress'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMac View Post
    Can you replace one head bolt if the rest are already torqued up? How important is the sequence and stages with these heads?

    Bruce.
    You can But I wouldnt risk it IF theres been coolant or otherfluid let into the system...

    As its an alloy head on a turbo diesel Everythings got to be A1 or your in for trouble at some point.

    It would be helpfull if the bonnet was off as well.

    AS one final thing about an hour before Im due to get there get your wifes hair drier or a hot air gun and aim it at the bolt and let it sit that way for about 1 hr so everythings nice and toasty (but not red hot) for when I get there. IF you dont have that a 500w halogen lamp aimed into the area at a short distance will do the same trick overnight.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

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