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19th November 2007, 08:57 PM
#1
300 Tdi sump
All,
just looking at fixing the oil leak from the sump of my 300Tdi Disco. Seem to remember the dealer telling me no gasket just a tube of some sealer. Is it possible to buy a sump gasket ?... haven't seen any online from the normal sources.
Darren
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19th November 2007, 09:09 PM
#2
Hi Darren,
We use a Wurth silicone type sealant, which maybe expensive but works well and lasts.
We used to use Permatex ultra blue but it wasn't as long lasting as the Wurth product.
AFAIK there is no sump gasket available, but maybe a series one would fit?? The blocks are very similar....
JC
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19th November 2007, 10:16 PM
#3
300 Tdi sump
J.D. in Sydney fixed mine. He actually uses a special glue and glues the pan on. Not a single drip anywhere. Jim
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19th November 2007, 10:18 PM
#4
300 Tdi sump
Or is it his brother B.D.?I HAD A SENIORS MOMENT
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20th November 2007, 12:41 AM
#5
I've just resealed my #5 main bearing cap and sump with Silastic # 730 (CBC bearings, $9 a handy tube). I've been disappointed with the Permatex blue - didn't work well on the sump at all. From what I can gather, the recommended sealant, Hylosil, is something similar to Loctite's Blue & Black MAXX, and Silastic's #730. But MAXX is $20 at tube (Rare spares), and it seems a bit silly not to try the industrial version from CBC.
I used a standard 4 cyl series sump gasket two years ago when I did some crank work on my car - it works but now with a decent sealant I can see why it's not needed.
I used a wire brush attached to a grinder to clean up the sump and block mating faces, and then cleaned it with paint thinners - so far the #730 silastic is holding up well. Mind you, I took my time, and tightened the bolts in two stages - after letting it cure for a few hours.
If the leak persists at the join of the block and transmission adapter, then you'll have to consider re-doing it and the t-seals of the number 5 main bearing cap. It's fiddly but beats taking the gearbox off to get at the rear engine oil seal.
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20th November 2007, 12:23 PM
#6
I have a leak from the sump too.
Choice of sealants aside is the job of removing and refitting the sump a simple one (no annoying cross members etc??)
Cheers
Jason
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20th November 2007, 02:25 PM
#7
I used Black Maxx when I bought the 130 in Jan '02 and it's only started to weep again in the last 18 months.
The secret to any silicone job is getting the two surfaces totally oil free which isn't that easy. i just kept cleaning and cleaning with Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK) which is a strong industrial solvent and one of it's main uses is to clean surfaces prior to bonding with epoxy adhesives.
BTW, part of the secret to a leak free seal is the correct tensioning of the sump mounting flange so you don't distort it (too badly)
I seem to recall a few Landy garages like Graeme Cooper selling a cork/composite gasket as they are notorious for leaking.
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