Thread: 130 questions from newby

Depends on the year you are looking at as to the engine issues. Newer ones have a TD5, so do a search on that, otherwise search on TDi 300. There are quite a few threads comparing these 2 engines.

Telling us how much you're looking at spending would be a good place to start.

They are not independent suspension at all - Front and Rear live beam axles, no matter what year you are looking at.

They are a fabulous drive as long as you get used to the appalling turning circle and the trouble of finding a long park when you go into town.

Cheers
David

OK, where to start.

First up, coils and live (solid) axles all round, not independent.
Flex OK from the factory, with a little work, flex can be great.

Prior to '02, all 130's had a bullet proof rear diff, (known as a Salisbury, it's based on a Dana 60 ) but axles and drive flanges are prone to wear/breakage, but can be upgraded easily. (axles are splined both ends, with a separate bolt on drive flange, unlike flanged one piece full floating assemblies of most other manufacturers) Later (post '02) versions use a weaker CWP.

130 chassis can crack where the upper trailing arm crossmember meets the main rails. I think this just happens to be the major stress point in torsion with the extended wheel base. Those that do crack here have had a hard life.

Front diff is relatively weak, even compared to 79/80/100 Series TLC, as are CV's but most last OK unless 33's+ and a heavy right foot is used.
TLC high pinion can be fitted to Rover housing to beef it up a bit.
Jac McNamarra make a casting to use the Hilux low pinion front diff.

G/box is also (relatively) weak compared to Patrols, etc. but not too bad.

T/case is bloody strong and low range gearing is very good compared to Japanese t/cases.

Engines (Tdi and TD5) can either be really good, or, these days in the case of the TD5, you wished you'd never layed eyes on it as it appears that when they go wrong, they can go wrong in a costly way, but mostly they are really good.

There's been a few 6.5's fitted over the years, and the owners are usually really happy.

We have a Patrol coil cab ute, as well as the 130 Crew Cab, and I prefer to drive the Landy, and it is inherently more capable off road, too. The Patrol's great, and overall is stronger in the driveline, but I reckon the Landy has the edge in chassis strength, and it's a more engaging drive.

Originally Posted by rick130

OK, where to start.

First up, coils and live (solid) axles all round, not independent.
Flex OK from the factory, with a little work, flex can be great.

Prior to '02, all 130's had a bullet proof rear diff, (known as a Salisbury, it's based on a Dana 60 ) but axles and drive flanges are prone to wear/breakage, but can be upgraded easily. (axles are splined both ends, with a separate bolt on drive flange, unlike flanged one piece full floating assemblies of most other manufacturers) Later (post '02) versions use a weaker CWP.

130 chassis can crack where the upper trailing arm crossmember meets the main rails. I think this just happens to be the major stress point in torsion with the extended wheel base. Those that do crack here have had a hard life.

Front diff is relatively weak, even compared to 79/80/100 Series TLC, as are CV's but most last OK unless 33's+ and a heavy right foot is used.
TLC high pinion can be fitted to Rover housing to beef it up a bit.
Jac McNamarra make a casting to use the Hilux low pinion front diff.

G/box is also (relatively) weak compared to Patrols, etc. but not too bad.

T/case is bloody strong and low range gearing is very good compared to Japanese t/cases.

Engines (Tdi and TD5) can either be really good, or, these days in the case of the TD5, you wished you'd never layed eyes on it as it appears that when they go wrong, they can go wrong in a costly way, but mostly they are really good.

There's been a few 6.5's fitted over the years, and the owners are usually really happy.

We have a Patrol coil cab ute, as well as the 130 Crew Cab, and I prefer to drive the Landy, and it is inherently more capable off road, too. The Patrol's great, and overall is stronger in the driveline, but I reckon the Landy has the edge in chassis strength, and it's a more engaging drive.

Thanks Guys, What are the new rear diffs fitted like? I am looking to spend some where from 30,000 to 40,000 so i want some thing that i will get some good life out of. Is there much room in the rear seats for the bill lids?
Thanks for the info mate great stuff!!!

the new rear end is as fitted to Pommy army 110's.
It's a modified, strengthened Rover style (spiral bevel) diff.
There have been some bearing issues. Been discussed on here over the last few months.

Kids'd fit fine in the back seat of a Crew Cab, There is more room than the smallish Japanese CC's.

I don't know about that to weak bit when talking about the drive line.My defender has done alot of work,both offroad and towing and the only thing I have replaced are the drive flanges.I think if you break diff's,axles,G/boxes you need to change your driving style.I was at Modern motors the other day and they are getting long K's(400,000+) out of the older vehicles now,mines near that too and still going very well.With engines I have change oil and filters every 10k and all other fluids every year and belts and hoses every 2 years and don't have problems with it either.My vehicle when compard to my friends Toyota's and Nissan's is better to drive,cheaper to run and has been more reliable but a well looked after and service history is a must as many have been abused and you want to get them cheap or walk away.My thoughts on LR's are they are just as good and better than most in all counts.Just to add I am very seriously looking at a 08 model 130 and a new camper for my family. Pat

For $30 -40K you will get an extremely good one. Late model + lows Kms.

I paid $21K for a 2002 130 TD5 with 130,000Km on the clock (incl snorkel, winch, LR tanks, strengthened diffs, spotties, etc).

Just make sure it has full service history, as has been pointed out.

Thanks Pat, That sounds promising.
Spud boy that sounds just like what i am after maybe just a few less ks.

How big is the tray on these. They look at least 1.8m long. Is that in the bal park?

I am just about sold, i just need to find one and take it for a spin. Not so many around Kalgoorlie WA.

Originally Posted by jimbob

Thanks Pat, That sounds promising.
Spud boy that sounds just like what i am after maybe just a few less ks.

How big is the tray on these. They look at least 1.8m long. Is that in the bal park?

I am just about sold, i just need to find one and take it for a spin. Not so many around Kalgoorlie WA.

just measured mine

internal measurement 5ft/8 long and 5ft/5 wide
thats a standard HC Ute