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    35" on a 00 Defender Wagon???

    Hello All,

    I know that this is most likley a subject written to death, I have just sold my lifted patrol and received my first defender being a 00 Wagon 110.

    On the Patrol i had brand new 35" MTR Wranglers and the new owner did not want then so i kept them, te Question is will the fit??
    If so what impact will they have on the Drive line and what clearence is required to ensure the fit??

    Many thanks in advance for your help.

    Cheers

    Dutchie10

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    They'll go under pretty easily. No trimming necessary. Just need a spring lift, say 2" or 3". Over 2" yoou'll need some castor correction. Wheels arer normally 16x8s, with extra offset in the order of an inch to 30mm or so.

    For an engineering certificate you'll need to adjust the speedo and probably bigger flares. You can just space out the existing flares. If you go for less offset to keep the tyres under, you lose too much steering lock.

    Driveline? Its not tyres that breaks stuff, it's the right foot. Your gearing is up 15% on standard, so the clutch may wear prematurely if you're in a lot of stop-start traffic. Offroad there will be more traction. Not a problem if driven sensibly, but expect broken diffs, CVs & axles if a smash&bash driving technique is employed.

    There are plenty of threads on drivetrain upgrades, particularly if you thinking about lockers as well.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tusker View Post
    They'll go under pretty easily. No trimming necessary. Just need a spring lift, say 2" or 3". Over 2" yoou'll need some castor correction. Wheels arer normally 16x8s, with extra offset in the order of an inch to 30mm or so.

    For an engineering certificate you'll need to adjust the speedo and probably bigger flares. You can just space out the existing flares. If you go for less offset to keep the tyres under, you lose too much steering lock.

    Driveline? Its not tyres that breaks stuff, it's the right foot. Your gearing is up 15% on standard, so the clutch may wear prematurely if you're in a lot of stop-start traffic. Offroad there will be more traction. Not a problem if driven sensibly, but expect broken diffs, CVs & axles if a smash&bash driving technique is employed.

    There are plenty of threads on drivetrain upgrades, particularly if you thinking about lockers as well.

    Regards
    Max P
    Thanks for that Max,

    I had my eye on a set of 15 X 8" Rims so now i have to ensure i get the correct Offset, I was looking at 2" but as the Defender shakes from time to time when driving sooo I am inclinded to think some of my Bushes are U/S so a 3" Lift and new Correct bushes is not out of the Question.

    Who is reasonable around the Newcastle area to fit castor bushes??

    I tend to err on the side of caution when 4WDing as i only have a Hand winch and hate having to use it because i pushed caution to the wind and got stuck.
    Lockers are on the list but a bit further down, was looking at the ARB air locker system.

    Cheers

    Dutchie 10

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    Sorry had assumed you had 315/75/16s. I assume the desired offset is similar, might be woth checking the specs in say the ProComp catalogue. They make steelies in 15s & 16s.

    Forgot to add that at 3" you'll probably have u-joint vibration issues. Usual fix is to fit a D2 double-carden front prop shaft, plus the corresponding flange on the t/case. Not a big conversion. At 2" you'll probably be ok.

    Consensus usually is not to fit castor correction bushes. They wear quickly and can reduce flex. If you want to increase flex then Haultech's holey bushes will be high on your list. One popular castor fix is to machine the hubs and simply rotate, theres been discussion here before about slotted hubs. Another fix is to bend the radius arms. Not sure about legalities with an eng cert though. Snake Racing make a replacement arm, never seen them though. I think Equipe do too, but I could be wrong.

    Regards
    Max P

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    Thanks for that Max,

    And as you seem the knowledgeable type around landrovers,
    I drive along the highway or town road hit a bump and for 20-30 meters i am fighting to control the wagon then it fades back to normal smooth driving. It also happens regardless of speed, if you are acclerating, Breaking, turning etc.
    The Wagon only has 82,000 km on the clock.

    Any Ideas.

    Cheers

    Dutchie10

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    swivell pin shims need adjusting, pan hard rod bushes had the dick?
    or just the steering dampner? ide go the first option.

    cheers phil

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    Ah, back on the air again.

    It could be a number of reasons - bushes, swivels as mentioned. Have a search, its been raised before.

    But being 82,000 kms, that's a worry. It might be as simple as a failed shock. That's where I'd look first.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tusker View Post
    Ah, back on the air again.

    It could be a number of reasons - bushes, swivels as mentioned. Have a search, its been raised before.

    But being 82,000 kms, that's a worry. It might be as simple as a failed shock. That's where I'd look first.

    Regards
    Max P
    Had a look under the front last night and the Steering danmper looks fairly ratty and the front shocks are looking sad, so time to upgrade the springs and shocks and see what result i get.

    Cheers for the info.

    Cheers

    Dutchie10

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    while I'd be checking shockie bushes and Panhard rod bushes and bolts (they have a habit of loosening) don't discount a tyre dynamic out of balance too.
    I've had em all

    Hey Max, have some interesting flex photos regarding holey bushes (flogged out) vs Super Pro urethane ones.
    The results surprised me.

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    snip

    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Hey Max, have some interesting flex photos regarding holey bushes (flogged out) vs Super Pro urethane ones.
    The results surprised me.
    Tell me more! Can u post them up?

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