Bilsteins

**rick130** · 21st January 2008, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by philco

hi there, i was talking to my mechanic on the gold coast, Rick from Ricks 4x4 in nerang who has worked on Landrovers most of his working life and he said to stay with bilsteins as they are designed for the ride of Defenders etc to take the shock better than anything else. Rick is a wealth of knowledge, worked for MAXI DRIVE for a few years also and knows his stuff.

stock Billies are OK all round on a stock Disco and RRC and are OK on the front of a 110/130, but should be re-valved for the rear and definitely have to be re-valved for a 130 rear. The spring rate on a 130 is well over double a RRC, so how on earth can a damper valved for a RRC control the 130 springs ?
(and Koni do the same thing, but at least you can double the rebound on them)

Jamie · 23rd January 2008, 06:12 PM

I have seen bilsteins on E-Bay in the U.S. Their prices for disco's vary from $270-315 for a full set F+R. The cheapest price I have been quoted so far for freight was $125. When converted to Aus$ the price is a tad over $500. Any thoughts ??

Jamie

**tdiBrad** · 23rd January 2008, 06:36 PM

Hi Jamie,
Once the shipping is factored in it seems a little pricey.
Try this:

Land Rover parts - SHOCK - L/ROVER DEF (>HA)(REAR)(BILSTEIN)

Hmmm, on second glance, i think this is for a SINGLE damper only ... if so, then yikes ...

If it's a single shock, I would say grab Konis

**loanrangie** · 23rd January 2008, 07:57 PM

For Koni's try Toperformance in Vic as they are the agent for koni ( i get them trade from them

), i have had the same set of koni's in 2 vehicles over the last 6 years without an ounce of problem and Roverone is correct as off the shelf konis arent supposed to be suitable for a lift - my RRC was lifted and never had a prob.

**longreach** · 24th January 2008, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jamie

I have seen bilsteins on E-Bay in the U.S. Their prices for disco's vary from $270-315 for a full set F+R. The cheapest price I have been quoted so far for freight was $125. When converted to Aus$ the price is a tad over $500. Any thoughts ??

Jamie

jamie,You would pay $700 plus,for the same in Australia....I find it cheaper to order from the USA.....I ve just received a pair of poly air bags from the USA.....half the price you would get them for here

**CraigE** · 24th January 2008, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jamie

I have seen bilsteins on E-Bay in the U.S. Their prices for disco's vary from $270-315 for a full set F+R. The cheapest price I have been quoted so far for freight was $125. When converted to Aus$ the price is a tad over $500. Any thoughts ??

Jamie

For what I bought for the Defender (4 shocks) I was quoted $900 plus freight in Australia. Approx $100 Aud freight from Perth so $1000 all up for 4 shocks. Price was same from east coast.
Out of the USA $464 delivered to my door. Arrived in a week and a half. Not rocket science, do the math. May vary slightly due to exchange rate.

**longreach** · 24th January 2008, 02:56 PM

Just got a price on a set of rear bilstein heavy duty shock absorber,to suit a defender, from TRUCKSPRINGS.in the USA...(item #) B46-0253-MO delivered to my door,$230 .......wholesale suspension quoted my $395.00,delivered to my door....I think I,ll be ordering from truckspring in the US

**PAT303** · 24th January 2008, 05:26 PM

I have just bought a front set of Koni's for my defender and got all four for the disco and they were $200 each from Monaco Performance at Kotara in Newcastle.I have Billies on the back and the koni's are better in re-bound than billies and that is the big thing,when at speed it is the bounce after compression that causes you to loose control so if that is dampened out you are safer.

**pawl** · 24th January 2008, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

.I have Billies on the back and the koni's are better in re-bound than billies and that is the big thing,when at speed it is the bounce after compression that causes you to loose control so if that is dampened out you are safer.

Yep thats my main gripe with the billies in the back of the Disco as well, the fronts are OK. They ride OK but I did expect better from the hype surrounding them

**rick130** · 24th January 2008, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

I have just bought a front set of Koni's for my defender and got all four for the disco and they were $200 each from Monaco Performance at Kotara in Newcastle.I have Billies on the back and the koni's are better in re-bound than billies and that is the big thing,when at speed it is the bounce after compression that causes you to loose control so if that is dampened out you are safer.

I have the opposite problem with Koni Patrol fronts.
No where near enough low or medium speed rebound, even on maximum rebound, and insufficient high speed bump with stock springs (it crashes heavily into the bump stops, which is more a lack of bump travel, but i can control it with bump valving.)
I have a set here I have to re-valve soon. The front skitters on stutter bumps and corrugations, and always has.
Koni Patrol rears are fine as is.

Bilstein Patrol standard valving (not the ones with a 'K' suffix) are brilliant at speed on virtually any road, but the low speed bump is so great that even back when I was racing I quickly tired of it, hence why the new (six and a half years old now) Patrol has Koni's.

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