Thread: Wheel studs

Quote from factory workshop manual:-

"Note: The road wheel retaining studs must not be renewed. Should any studs be unserviceable a new hub complete with studs must be obtained."

Having said that, they are pressed in, and can probably be replaced. I don't know how easy they are to get though, never having had a problem with them. I suspect the prohibition on replacing them is because the press fit cannot be guaranteed once they have been removed.

As they are pretty durable, I would have thought that a second hand hub from a rusted out or wrecked one would be fairly findable. I believe that later (TD5? or 2007?) Defenders have different hubs, and of course the rear hubs from ones with discs are probably different from the drum ones.

John

Thanks John, The reason i ask is a friend had a 110 that is running sunraysia style rims and he had the wheel nuts come loose on one wheel. As the rim wasn't a close fit on the centre of the hub the threads were badly damaged. (too bad to be repaired with a die). So it looks likes a new (second hand) hub is in order.

Cheers
WR

pfaffle they are a bit of a pita to change over on the discs but its simply a case of

remove the hub
seperate the hub from the rotor.

beat the old studs out with a big hammer gently line up the new studs in the old holds and tap them lightly a couple of times with a small hammer to sit them in.

grab a good wheel nut of the same type of size and thread and then putting some heavy washers over the threads put the wheel nut on backwards and do that up tight. that will pull the stud home take the wheel nut off and repeast as required

the reason its a non replaceable item is as it involves messing with brakes and wheel bearings and your supposed to have it done at a stealers because of the requirements of the newer spacered wheelbearings. most workshops dont have the requisite 40 diffeent spacers to sort out the bearings.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

pfaffle they are a bit of a pita to change over on the discs but its simply a case of

remove the hub
seperate the hub from the rotor.

beat the old studs out with a big hammer gently line up the new studs in the old holds and tap them lightly a couple of times with a small hammer to sit them in.

grab a good wheel nut of the same type of size and thread and then putting some heavy washers over the threads put the wheel nut on backwards and do that up tight. that will pull the stud home take the wheel nut off and repeast as required

the reason its a non replaceable item is as it involves messing with brakes and wheel bearings and your supposed to have it done at a stealers because of the requirements of the newer spacered wheelbearings. most workshops dont have the requisite 40 diffeent spacers to sort out the bearings.

Onyer Dave

Nothing like been there done that!

Go for it Daniel..

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

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the reason its a non replaceable item is as it involves messing with brakes and wheel bearings and your supposed to have it done at a stealers because of the requirements of the newer spacered wheelbearings. most workshops dont have the requisite 40 diffeent spacers to sort out the bearings.

I rather doubt your explanation of the reason is the correct one - that quote is from STC409 copyright 1989, so the bearing spacers seem to be an unlikely reason, seeing they did not appear for about fifteen years after publication. Note that this prohibition is at the end of the section describing how to replace the wheel bearings and seal.

But you confirm my suspicion that they are in fact readily replaceable, although I would really like to know why the manufacturers don't want you to replace them. From what you are saying, I gather the studs are readily available.

John

only place IVe seen that you cant do it is in an obsucre part of a Rave cd and from memory I suspect that its just bad wording(or bad memory) that the studs themselves shouldnt be remade as opposed to changing them (I havent reconfirmed this I might be wrong).

ive got a paper copy of the sereis county and deefer repair manuals and havent seen it in them but they are not all genuine rover manuals.

its not mentioned in any of them.....

Dave,
My quote was from the Ninety - One Ten Factory Workshop manual, and is certainly not obscure - it is in bold type as I quoted for the front hub instructions, and is repeated but not in bold for the rear hub instructions.

John

if you happen to break a stud out bush, and you happen to have a spare stud, with a file you could chamfer the shoulder and squeeze the stud in between the hub and disc, then pull it home with the nut. A bit quicker and less messy than removing the entire hub assembly. I had a spate of sheared studs on the old disco, something like 4 on the cape/gulf roads over two trips... i keep a few spares in the parts box. but having said that ive driven the disco on 4 studs on one wheel for quite a distance before replacing???? I just bought the studs and nuts from a lr parts dealer?
Steve