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12th February 2008, 10:21 PM
#1
300Tdi coolant level sensors
Hi all,
I am building an integrated engine monitoring system for my D1 (Tdi300) and am currently working on the coolant level part.
I am looking for ideas on what is the best way to detect coolant loss without being too intrusive (not sure if I want to split hoses).
Has anyone on the forum used a float switch in the expansion tank and if so what type/make etc. I have a number of Jaycar side entry float switches, but I'm not sure if they can handle the coolant temperature.
Alternatively, is there a cheap generic low resistance probe or other vehicle manufacturers sensors that would do the job.
The output of the sensor can be NO/NC or just about anything between as I am using a microcontroller and can code accordingly or use signal conversion/conditioning. Just needs to be cheap, reliable and elegantly simple.
The overall project consists of the following:
EGT sensing/display with alarm (completed for under $100)
Coolant level alarm (just about there... just need a suitable level sensor)
Coolant temperature display/alarm (done)
ZF gearbox oil temp (trying to work out where best to place the sensor)
Turbo boost display (still looking for a suitable transducer around 1.0 bar)
Main & aux battery voltage display/alarm with low voltage dropout (done)
All of the above is/will be controlled by pic micro with output to a single display/alarm.
Any other ideas welcome.
Yes.... I will post as I get closer to completion.
Regards
M.
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12th February 2008, 11:46 PM
#2
One of this forums sponsors does these things
Have a look at
Low Water Alarm Sensor
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13th February 2008, 06:47 AM
#3
a RRC cap with inbuilt float also fits.
There is an excellent write up using the 'Little Black Box' float switch (available separately) here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-t...hotos-etc.html
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13th February 2008, 07:45 AM
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13th February 2008, 07:57 AM
#5
This is also an interesting discussion on the best place to fit a low coolant sensor.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-t...hotos-etc.html
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13th February 2008, 08:15 AM
#6
Coolant level sensors are not an end in themselves, just hopefully a means of detecting overheating before damage is caused to the motor. I think probably the cheapest and most fail safe system, which I have, is a temperature sensitive switch on the head which opens at 105 degrees in the wire to the fuel solenoid on the injector pump. With some causes of overheating it will stop the motor before any water loss occurs and if due to water loss not caused by overheating, soon after and before it causes damage.
Note with this setup in place on my 300Tdi Defender, I have not replaced the fan and shroud since changing the timing belt last May, but carry them around in case needed. Have done several other small things to allow better air flow through the radiator and intercooler. The only time the motor has stopped so far from needing a fan was when it was left idling for about half an hour on a hot day. Earlier have had motor stop despite fan due to combination of heavy load, hot day and radiator core full of insects, etc.
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13th February 2008, 12:49 PM
#7
Mine is in the blank on the top of the radiator, works a treat
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13th February 2008, 03:13 PM
#8
I have a engine saver alarm , I mounted the probe under the top hose on the Thermostat housing as that is the highest part of the motor , And works fine for me
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13th February 2008, 03:22 PM
#9
I like the idea of the audible alarm that bolts external on the head, seen them on evil bay not long back but cant seem to find them now. I want a couple if some one knows where to source them. I find that temp gauges and lights just aint quick enough (or dont grab your attention quick enough), mybe my sinic mind thinks that car manufactures do this on purpose as it would cost very little to put an audible alarm in when building the things (like why do you want an alarm to tell you you have left ya bloody lights on, very visible and not one to warn you you are about to spend big money on an overheaded engine)
cheers
blaze
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13th February 2008, 03:33 PM
#10
I think the Engine Saver has a lot going for it ( and not just saying that because he's a sponsor )
Simple, foolproof, reliable, easy to fit, no moving/mechanical parts.
If you wanted to incorporate it into some fancier vehicle monitoring system you could just take the output that drives the LED and feed it into your microprocessor.
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