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    Blown coolant hose, 95 Disco V8

    Towing a big car trailer packed with a kitchen for the shed today, I was giving the poor thing a bit of stick heading up the hill to Koetong. (2nd on the Auto 4000revs foot to the floor)

    I watch the temp gauge climb steadily to 3/4 up the "normal" band on the gauge. It usually sits in the bottom quarter. It settled there, but I was still a bit worried, so I thought I'd switch to petrol as it burns cooler. A couple of seconds after I switched, I saw a big puff in the rear view but no cough from the engine ??

    Then I saw the temp gauge dive for cool... ****! Pull over.

    Had my co-pilot pop the bonnet as I got out. Steam every where and a bad Tick Tick Tick, sounded like a sticky lifter.

    Shut down the engine.

    No water on board (it has never used a drop in 5 months)

    A Dad and a couple of kids pulled up and managed to fetch some water from a couple of km up the road.

    Filled the radiator, took about 6 litres. as we did, we spotted the fault. Stumpy little hose that connects the manifold/thermostat housing to the solid heater line mounted on the rocket cover had split underneath.

    Now, this hose is about 3" long. 3/4" ID one end and 7/8" the other. I can see no good reason why it couldn't be 3/4" both ends and you could just cut and shut the heater hose to suit. As it was, I was stuck... until I spotted the crank case breather hose.

    This hose is spread over the baffle cap at about 7/8ths, the other end near the plenum is 3/4" hook this into the heater line, Plug up the loose manifold ends. It doesn't have any braiding, so I was worried about the pressure. I left the coolant expansion bottle cap loose (This was a bad move)

    All started ok, no odd noises or leaks off we go.

    Stopped after a few Kms , all good. Another 10 Km, all good. about 30km after that the temp gauge climbed again. Pull over, low coolant. Filled it up again, but screwed the lid on tight. Drove home 120km, towing trailer, checking regularly but with no more problems.

    Got home, checked the oil, no mayonnaise. Only new external leak I spotted was on the valley seal just above the water pump. I wonder if this was always there, but without the vacuum on the crankcase breather the higher pressures make it noticeable.

    Now for the questions

    I am worried about engine damage. I thought I caught it pretty quick, but the TICK TICK TICK has me worried. What do I need to watch out for?

    WTF did LR decide to put a 7/8" hose tail fitting in the manifold where a 3/4" hose meets it? The little adapter hose was only $10, but it unnecessarily complicated field repairs >:{. Has anyone modded their manifold fitting to accept straight 3/4" hose?

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    the reason the cap pressurises the cooling system, is it raises the boiling point of the coolant. Water will rise from about 100 to 115 degrees, and with a good mix of coolant it will raise again to about 125 - 130 degrees. The normal operating temp of the motor is over 100 degrees in the coolant.

    Anyway, it's good that you made it home at least.
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    Yeah, I know. I was tossing up between pressurising the non standard hose, blowing it and being really stuck, or leave the system open to unload the hose, but boiling off the water.

    In the end, I got jack of stopping to top up water...

    Pray for my alloy block engine

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    hi pro

    don't think you have done too much damage to engine but that hose has been a problem for me too I found out you can get the same hose 3/4 - 7/8(its a heater hose only longer) from supercheap or any parts supplier for a EF falcon 4.0 litre engine I kept one as a spare after my wife destroyed an engine in my D1 18 months ago every expensive lessen

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    I'm thinking I should get a wreck and start rebuilding an engine. Nice High compression one for gas

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    Quote Originally Posted by procrastination inc View Post


    All started ok, no odd noises or leaks off we go.


    Now for the questions

    I am worried about engine damage. I thought I caught it pretty quick, but the TICK TICK TICK has me worried. What do I need to watch out for?



    G`day ,

    only suggesting and not questions to answer but to ask yourself .

    Tick tick was coz the oil got hotter/thinner than it liked which of coarse means so did the engine ? Or the thinning of the oil is just showing your lifters/cam have some wear ?

    It would probably pay to go over the engine and nip up anything with a gasket under it or wait and see if new leaks occur .


    When you changed over to petrol , more so if it was under load , at some time only short time but neither fuel is flowing and a lean condition occurs . If it`s already hot that leaning makes it hotter still .

    Since it seems like you saw when the hose blew , next to consider is why .
    It was just the extra load on the engine which raised the coolant temp enough to find the weakest point ?

    How old was the hose and why didn`t the cap release the pressure at the prescribed 15 or so psi ?

    When a head gasket starts to leak it will normally do it or is noticed that it is doing it when under load like towing or just climbing .

    Gauge rises as does the pressure in the coolant system .

    These engines because of their design don`t show with oil in water or water in oil as is the norm with head and/or gasket problems and they don`t crack heads because of their design if standard .

    So i`d suggest if the gauge starts to sit higher than normal , see if you have pressure and/or bubbles in the system .

    If nothing out of the ordinary happens , replace the hoses and forget it happened ( if you can )

    Cheers
    Last edited by p38arover; 28th March 2008 at 01:37 PM. Reason: fix quote

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    I doubt you have done any damage at all.
    It was all too quick.
    What does surprise me is the temperature gauge!

    My Disco never moves any further than one third up the dial and I tow a Caravan with it. Many big hills are taken in lower gears nut I never push it beyound 3,500 RPM.
    Most times we have the air con on, so the front electric fans are working, although on steep hills I can hear the large engine fan cut in. It makes a hell of a roar.

    Just wondering if your fan hub is working?

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    Thanks for the replys

    .....Tick tick was coz the oil got hotter/thinner than it liked which of coarse means so did the engine ? Or the thinning of the oil is just showing your lifters/cam have some wear ?...

    Maybe, I think I like that answer.

    It would probably pay to go over the engine and nip up anything with a gasket under it or wait and see if new leaks occur ....


    I'd better wash it again too, I'd struggle to spot much


    When you changed over to petrol , more so if it was under load , at some time only short time but neither fuel is flowing and a lean condition occurs . If it`s already hot that leaning makes it hotter still....


    I always switch over with accelerator all the way off.

    Since it seems like you saw when the hose blew , next to consider is why .
    It was just the extra load on the engine which raised the coolant temp enough to find the weakest point ?...


    My guess, oldest hose. All the heater hoses bar this one had been changed when the gas went on. Lower radiator hose is after market. Had it blown before and the motor has suffered in the past?

    why didn`t the cap release the pressure at the prescribed 15 or so psi ?


    Dunno maybe it popped at less than the cap pressure? It was pretty soft

    My Disco never moves any further than one third up the dial and I tow a Caravan with it. Many big hills are taken in lower gears nut I never push it beyound 3,500 RPM.
    Most times we have the air con on, so the front electric fans are working, although on steep hills I can hear the large engine fan cut in. It makes a hell of a roar.

    Just wondering if your fan hub is working?


    How do I check that?

    I wonder if I might be a bit lean on gas?

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    As for the fan hub, when you start your car in the morning, does the fan roar for a minute or so and then stop?

    That is what it do if they were quite warm when switched off the night or day before. The noise the fan makes when the bi-metal switch activates, is the same.

    If you get none of that, you may well have a faulty viscous hub.

    Cheers,
    Ron

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    Yes, it does. Roars for about 100m meters from my place when I start in the mornings, the goes quiet. So that is probably ok?

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