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    Engine Watchdog TM2 on gearbox

    Some time ago I bought two Engine Watchdog TM2 engine temp alarms (one for my 300 Tdi Defender and one for my Disco). I am in the process of fitting one to the Defender, and since the Disco has now been sold I'm considering what to do with the other one. My question is: Is there is any merit in mounting it to the Def gearbox? It's just a thought. If I don't do that I have other machines I can bolt it to. Is there any value in knowing my gearbox temp?

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    I assume this would be the second sensor for the defender? i.e. you already have the first one on the engine block?

    If so, IMHO, there are a few options, you could place the second one in another location on the block so you are monitoring in essence the block water jacket temp and the oil temp (or the area downstream from the water pump), or on the transfer case (more likely to be working hot than the gearbox if you are choosing the right gear IMHO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchiDna View Post
    I assume this would be the second sensor for the defender? i.e. you already have the first one on the engine block?

    If so, IMHO, there are a few options, you could place the second one in another location on the block so you are monitoring in essence the block water jacket temp and the oil temp (or the area downstream from the water pump), or on the transfer case (more likely to be working hot than the gearbox if you are choosing the right gear IMHO).
    That's right. The first one is on the engine block, and I have a spare.
    The transfer case is an option. Is the transfer case ever likely to get so hot that damage will occur? I don't think I'll bother with two on the engine. I have a few tractors. I could put it on one of them.

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    You already should have a circuit for a TC temp sensor if your defender is post 96. If you haven't, you can retrofit from a later wreck rather than wasting the watchdog (Unless you really want the extra dohickeys).

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    Quote Originally Posted by langy View Post
    You already should have a circuit for a TC temp sensor if your defender is post 96. If you haven't, you can retrofit from a later wreck rather than wasting the watchdog (Unless you really want the extra dohickeys).
    Thanks Langy, but I don't quite get it. What is "TC"? Traction Control? What is this temp sensor there for? Can you or someone else explain this a bit further? Mine's a '96 130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wally View Post
    Thanks Langy, but I don't quite get it. What is "TC"? Traction Control? What is this temp sensor there for? Can you or someone else explain this a bit further? Mine's a '96 130.
    TC : Transfer Case.
    If your box is a manual then there is probably no point.
    I have a temp guage for my gearbox but that is because it's an auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George130 View Post
    TC : Transfer Case.
    If your box is a manual then there is probably no point.
    I have a temp guage for my gearbox but that is because it's an auto.
    "Transfer case". Yes, the very thing we were only just talking about. How embarrassment. I do apologise for my blonde moment.

    So why do post 96 Defenders have a temp sensor on the transfer case if there was no gauge or warning light associated with it? And why was it deemed necessary?

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    When you turn the ignition on there should be three indicator lights come on - charge, brakes and a temp symbol within a cog symbol. This is the TC overtemp indicator. In an auto, there is a 2nd temp switch wired into the same circuit.
    Your defender should have this circuit - look at the passenger side of the transfer case - there should be a temp swtich screwed into the side of TC and wires leading into the loom that services the speedo input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by langy View Post
    When you turn the ignition on there should be three indicator lights come on - charge, brakes and a temp symbol within a cog symbol. This is the TC overtemp indicator. In an auto, there is a 2nd temp switch wired into the same circuit.
    Your defender should have this circuit - look at the passenger side of the transfer case - there should be a temp swtich screwed into the side of TC and wires leading into the loom that services the speedo input.
    I didn't know I had a temp; warning for the transfere.
    The things you learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George130 View Post
    I didn't know I had a temp; warning for the transfere.
    The things you learn.
    Don't think you do. I don't in mine, and I've had the t/case out.

    Wally, the R380 can get too hot, particularly if it doesn't have an oil cooler (most 300Tdi's)
    The oldies appeared to have cooked theirs behind the TD5 in the 130 last year towing a cravan back home in +46* temps. The case hardening had started to fail on some of the gears, while a metallurgy problem, I couldn't help thinking that it was partly caused by the oil (Syntrans) getting too thin under that load/temp.

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