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    Dive Bottle Tyre Inflator

    I have rigged up an old dive type bottle to an air hose and tyre inflator fitting to use in the bush.
    Only thing is, the bottle is filled to 300Bar which is pretty scary. I have tested by just cracking open the valve on the bottle and as soon as the tyre is re-inflated I shut the valve. Normally the wife assists but I can't seem to get a regulator from 300Bar down to abot 7 Bar. I tried all the dive shops but the tell me the bottle fitting is an old JIS type (Japanese Standard) which no-one has here anymore. I got the bottle from a ship as part of a BA set but no regulator. I looked at some from our marine supply division but the fittings are female at the bottle instead of the male fitting that I have.
    After that long storey, have any of you used a similar set-up and managed to regulate down to safer pressures?
    Chow
    James
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    2008 Puma 110 - sold
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    I have exactly the same set-up (also the male at bottle and old style connection). I have used the "carefully does it" approuch to air up tyres from 0.8 Bar to 2.0 Bar in 20 seconds and waxed it down to a T without the use of a regulator, but I'm the only one allowed to use it (safety reasons).

    My problem is not the regulator or pressure control, but having my bottles re-filled. I see you call yourself "CAPELANDY" - please tell me this is CAPE TOWN, SA... b'cause I don't know where to turn to for a re-fill seeing that these bottles have not had a hydro or any other tests done for some time now.

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    I use an air cylinder of a Paintball Gun.
    It holds .92 Cubic feet of air at 4000 Psi and has an inbuilt regulator that can be adjusted down to 200 psi on the output side and up to 1000 psi.
    Any paintball field can and will refill it, typically for about a Dollar.
    I'll put some pics up.

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    Bottle Test

    Quote Originally Posted by 90 2.8i View Post
    I have exactly the same set-up (also the male at bottle and old style connection). I have used the "carefully does it" approuch to air up tyres from 0.8 Bar to 2.0 Bar in 20 seconds and waxed it down to a T without the use of a regulator, but I'm the only one allowed to use it (safety reasons).

    My problem is not the regulator or pressure control, but having my bottles re-filled. I see you call yourself "CAPELANDY" - please tell me this is CAPE TOWN, SA... b'cause I don't know where to turn to for a re-fill seeing that these bottles have not had a hydro or any other tests done for some time now.
    Yep, Cape Town.
    My bottle has had a proper hydro test and luckily our maritime supply company has a high pressure compressor which costs me a whiskey for as many refils as I need. Officially they will probably not open this up to anyone els unfortunately so that's as much detail as I can give.
    Defender Kalahari 2006 (300 TDi)
    2008 Puma 110 - sold
    1973 Ser III 109" - sold

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    It wood be much cheaper and safer to by a 12volt air compressor off ebay than all this stuffing around I look at this as a portable bomb Have seen enough pictures of exploded pressure vessels and the damaged they have done to buildings . How ever I let a 3 megger watt boiler blow its safety valves off on its annual what a blast just for good fun did a accumulation test as well ,new safety officer didn't know what to do noise steam

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    Geez fella's use a bloody nitrogen regulator or you'll do some damage to yourselves and your tyres

    And yes, I used to use a similar setup too. It's how I aired up my tyres at the race track for years using 'D' size industrial air cylinders that I filled at the local dive shop. I made up an adapter to go from the old style nitro/oxy valve to the dive cylinder valve for filling.

    These days I carry at least one 'D' Nitrogen in the truck most of the time but use the 12V air compressor instead. Dry nitrogen is too damned exxy to waste all the time on my tyres except in an emergency.

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    Nitrogen Regulator

    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Geez fella's use a bloody nitrogen regulator or you'll do some damage to yourselves and your tyres

    And yes, I used to use a similar setup too. It's how I aired up my tyres at the race track for years using 'D' size industrial air cylinders that I filled at the local dive shop. I made up an adapter to go from the old style nitro/oxy valve to the dive cylinder valve for filling.

    These days I carry at least one 'D' Nitrogen in the truck most of the time but use the 12V air compressor instead. Dry nitrogen is too damned exxy to waste all the time on my tyres except in an emergency.
    Are you saying that I should trace a regulator off a nitrogen bottle and make an adaptor from the bottle to the regulator. Are they filled at similar pressures? Who normally sells nitrogen type gear?
    Thanks
    James
    Defender Kalahari 2006 (300 TDi)
    2008 Puma 110 - sold
    1973 Ser III 109" - sold

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    This was the one i had years ago which was in my challenge truck

    I just used normal dive stuff (from a dive shop) but had to have a regulator and pressure falve to stop build up of pressure or somthing like that . But was safe to use with air tools and pump up tyres

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    I actually have the two old air cylinders and adapter still, but I can't use them as;

    a. they need a re-test, and the bloke that I used to use doesn't do it anymore and he is at least 350km away.
    b. there isn't a dive shop for near 160km anyway

    Nitrogen regulators usually have a safe maximum inlet pressure of 200bar/3000psi. Are you sure your bottle is being filled to 300bar ? Don't think I used to get mine filled anywhere near that high. 150 bar seems to ring a bell.

    Inert gas regulators are usually available from industrial gas suppliers like BOC, and welding gear suppliers.
    BOC, Harris, Murex and CIGweld are three names that spring to mind that make nitro regulators, but it sounds like you might have trouble trying to adapt something to your cylinder.

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    200 Bar

    My bottle is rated to 300 Bar but I actually only filled to 200 Bar.
    I will make a turn at Afrox this morning when they open and check out their nitrogen regulators.
    I have a machine shop here at work so making a nice strong adaptor won't be any trouble.
    Thanks for the advise guys.
    James
    Defender Kalahari 2006 (300 TDi)
    2008 Puma 110 - sold
    1973 Ser III 109" - sold

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